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Hello folks. I have been playing of and on for about 5 years but have only earned one-and-a-half years of vet rewards.

Am I going to be missing out on a ton of cool stuff that might become necessary since a good majority of long-termers have a whole bag full of rewards? Will it ever be possible to catch up?

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I'm in a similar boat as you... six years since starting the game, but only two years and two months of paid time. Rewards are never NECESSARY... they're mostly costume parts and free costume changes. The only reward that has significantly affected my game is the Sands of Mu, and only for starting characters. And the respecs are nice for trying out different builds.

You can't catch up as far as I know... rewards are based on paid time, and you actually have to wait for that time to elapse. However, temp powers are available that fill some of the gaps... for instance, you know that that shiny City Traveller vet reward that lets you take a travel power at level 6? Just buy yourself a jet pack, or do a safeguard in King's Row and you'll be flying right alongside the 5 year vets. Need a ranged AoE for your scrapper? How about building a plasmatic taser?

Also, with Freedom coming up, I think you'll be able to buy your way into useful powers. But again, the vet rewards are cool and shiny, buy not having them will in no way gimp your characters.


 

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You won't ever be able to "catch up" with someone who's been subscribed longer than you, but if you're a VIP (i.e. still subscribing) then none of the Paragon Rewards are "neccessary" for playing the game properly AFAIK.

But yes, there may be some cool stuff you'll have to wait to get.


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I don't know about "catching up," but one of the attractive features of the new model is that you'll be able spend resources (Paragon Points, Empyrean Merits, cash, ect.) to target specific rewards YOU want, instead of getting whatever was scheduled as a Veteran reward. So instead of waiting through months of free costume tokens and respecs, you should be able to ignore those and spend your resources on whatever you do want (subject to the limitations of the "Tier" system which I admit I have only glanced over).


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I don't know about "catching up," but one of the attractive features of the new model is that you'll be able spend resources (Paragon Points, Empyrean Merits, cash, ect.) to target specific rewards YOU want, instead of getting whatever was scheduled as a Veteran reward. So instead of waiting through months of free costume tokens and respecs, you should be able to ignore those and spend your resources on whatever you do want (subject to the limitations of the "Tier" system which I admit I have only glanced over).
Basically, you can pick rewards within a tier in any order you like, but you have to complete a tier in order to be able to pick a reward from the next one up.


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Originally Posted by Dark_Inferno View Post
Hello folks. I have been playing of and on for about 5 years but have only earned one-and-a-half years of vet rewards.

Am I going to be missing out on a ton of cool stuff that might become necessary since a good majority of long-termers have a whole bag full of rewards? Will it ever be possible to catch up?

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The whole point of the Paragon Market/Paragon Reward system is that you can pay to catch up. Every $15 or so you spend advances you another month/token in the system. And if you buy Paragon Points in bulk, they're likely to be cheaper.


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Originally Posted by Dark_Inferno View Post
Hello folks. I have been playing of and on for about 5 years but have only earned one-and-a-half years of vet rewards.

Am I going to be missing out on a ton of cool stuff that might become necessary since a good majority of long-termers have a whole bag full of rewards? Will it ever be possible to catch up?

ty!
Check out the following page: http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/fre...s_details.html

As I understand it, you get a reward token for each vet badge you currently have and one for each year. For 18 months you'll have 7 reward tokens.

In the future you'll get one for each month subscribed, and another for each 1200 Paragon Points you purchase. It's therefore possible to "catch up" by buying Paragon Points.

So, basically you'll be able to get the vet rewards immediately by spending money now, instead of having to wait for the time to pass.


 

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http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/fre...s_details.html has most of the info. I'd forgotten about the "purchasing" of reward points.
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The whole point of the Paragon Market/Paragon Reward system is that you can pay to catch up. Every $15 or so you spend advances you another month/token in the system. And if you buy Paragon Points in bulk, they're likely to be cheaper.
I'd wager that getting tokens every 1200 points is more intended to give the players without a subscription an opportunity to earn some rewards, not as a mechanism for subscribers to get all the stuff as quickly as possible. Its just a side effect of opening them up in that manner. On the other hand, if you want to go in and drop $500 on a game to get all of them, that't your prerogative and the developers won't mind the extra cash one bit.


 

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The Veteran Rewards system gave you something every 3 months you had your account active.

The new Paragon Rewards system gives you something every month your account is active plus 1 extra reward per year plus an extra reward for every 1200 Paragon Points you buy from the store.

The Tier 9 rewards are essentially charged rewards. Really really nice charged rewards but charged rewards, well aside from the VIP costume stuff and it will cycle.

So with the new system you definitely can catch up to the old timers and in a fairly fast fashion particularly if you have some start ahead of time by having any exisitng Veteran Rewards.

Remember the tier 9 stuff is mainly nice charged stuff.


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I'd wager that getting tokens every 1200 points is more intended to give the players without a subscription an opportunity to earn some rewards, not as a mechanism for subscribers to get all the stuff as quickly as possible. Its just a side effect of opening them up in that manner. On the other hand, if you want to go in and drop $500 on a game to get all of them, that't your prerogative and the developers won't mind the extra cash one bit.
You pay $15 bucks a month, and get a token per month.

Or, when you feel like it, you drop $15 bucks...and you still get a token. I think, if anything, it's a parity/fairness issue. Either way, it'll satisfy the OP, and it won't cost $500 to do it.


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To further touch on TerraDraconis' post above:

The regular Tier 9 Rewards (accessible to anybody, VIP or no, once they've fully slotted through Tier 8) are repeatable consumeable rewards, such as enhancement boosters and deslotters and the like.

The Tier 9 VIP-only Rewards are costume pieces that will cycle over time. Every few months, they'll switch the option to something new, to keep things fresh for those who already have everything, and will presumably bring them back at a later date.


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http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Paragon_Rewards

Good overview with some examples for calculating your current Paragon Rewards level.

You can pre-pay a bunch of subscription time and get all of your Paragon Rewards tokens up-front. You can buy a bunch of Paragon Points and get some Paragon Points (1 for every 1200 PP). You must fill out a tier of rewards before moving on to the next tier (cannot skip rewards you're uninterested in).

Just for clarity: you don't have to have a sub to accrue Paragon Rewards. Premium Players (folks who have ever spent money on City of Heroes - previous subscription, box sets, PP purchase, etc.) also gain tokens. It's unclear whether TRULY FREE players (folks who have never spent a dime on City of Heroes - these can only exist after Freedom goes live) gain tokens beyond the first one.


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You pay $15 bucks a month, and get a token per month.

Or, when you feel like it, you drop $15 bucks...and you still get a token. I think, if anything, it's a parity/fairness issue. Either way, it'll satisfy the OP, and it won't cost $500 to do it.
Currently 36 slots * $15 = $540. If you're going for all of them on a completely new account.


 

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Just for clarity: you don't have to have a sub to accrue Paragon Rewards. Premium Players (folks who have ever spent money on City of Heroes - previous subscription, box sets, PP purchase, etc.) also gain tokens. It's unclear whether TRULY FREE players (folks who have never spent a dime on City of Heroes - these can only exist after Freedom goes live) gain tokens beyond the first one.
I'm pretty sure this is wrong. You have to either have a subscription for a month (meaning you're VIP and paying) or buy 1200 points to get a token. Premium players only get tokens by buying paragon points because they don't technically have a subscription any more. Free players are people who have NEVER given money will of course not get any tokens because they haven't paid a subscription or bought any points.

Probably the simplest explanation to summarize it is after it starts you get 1 token per $15 you spend (maybe slightly less if you buy multiple months). If you're VIP you get a bonus one every year as well.


 

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The only PR tokens Premium Players get are converted from their previous accrued vet rewards and years of subscription. Once that is done then it's the same as a free account, one per 1200 PP purchased. This makes PR tokens another big carrot to encourage subscriptions or using the store.


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I'd wager that getting tokens every 1200 points is more intended to give the players without a subscription an opportunity to earn some rewards, not as a mechanism for subscribers to get all the stuff as quickly as possible. Its just a side effect of opening them up in that manner. On the other hand, if you want to go in and drop $500 on a game to get all of them, that't your prerogative and the developers won't mind the extra cash one bit.
Actually, I'm betting it's a mix. Allowing subscribers to buy their way up the tree is another method of encouraging them to spend money beyond the basic $15/month subscription. Someone could easily start out buying a few thousand points for the extra PRTs but that then serves as a gateway drug encouraging to spend even more in the store.

Additionally, according to Zwillinger PRTs are awarded up front for subscription time so I bet a few people will switch to yearly subs in order to get a lot of PRTs early which again is a large benefit to Paragon Studios.


 

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Actually, I'm betting it's a mix. Allowing subscribers to buy their way up the tree is another method of encouraging them to spend money beyond the basic $15/month subscription. Someone could easily start out buying a few thousand points for the extra PRTs but that then serves as a gateway drug encouraging to spend even more in the store.

Additionally, according to Zwillinger PRTs are awarded up front for subscription time so I bet a few people will switch to yearly subs in order to get a lot of PRTs early which again is a large benefit to Paragon Studios.
The flip side of the latter half of that is then having to wait a whole year before you get a new Reward, which could stagnate for a lot of players.


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The flip side of the latter half of that is then having to wait a whole year before you get a new Reward, which could stagnate for a lot of players.
They don't have to wait a whole year. They can buy more points from the store.


 

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It says get a token for every month subscribed and for every year subscribed so I doubt that we can get 12 tokens at once. I believe it will work just like the vet rewards where you get a token every month for when you are subscribed.

Also, all premium players will get reward tokens for every vet reward and year they have been here. The only way a premium player won't get a reward token is if they have only subscribed for a month or two. Free players won't get anything until they subscribe or buy 1200 points.


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It says get a token for every month subscribed and for every year subscribed so I doubt that we can get 12 tokens at once. I believe it will work just like the vet rewards where you get a token every month for when you are subscribed.

Also, all premium players will get reward tokens for every vet reward and year they have been here. The only way a premium player won't get a reward token is if they have only subscribed for a month or two. Free players won't get anything until they subscribe or buy 1200 points.
Actually you can. If you prepay a year you will get your 4800 Paragon Points and your 12 Reward Tokens at the time you prepay for the year.


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The flip side of the latter half of that is then having to wait a whole year before you get a new Reward, which could stagnate for a lot of players.
If it's that big a deal, you can always buy get another reward token for every 1200 Paragon Points you buy.

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Actually you can. If you prepay a year you will get your 4800 Paragon Points and your 12 Reward Tokens at the time you prepay for the year.
Nooooope. You'll only get your Reward Tokens up front; your Paragon Points will be doled out 400 at a time every month on the anniversary of your pay date. (Or 550 per month if you're a VIP at Tier 9 rewards!)

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For those asking about Reward Tokens and multimonth subscriptions: As of now, the current plan is for you to receive all of your TOKENS up front however your PARAGON POINTS will be doled out each month on your billing cycle.

Should this change we'll let you know.


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Actually you can. If you prepay a year you will get your 4800 Paragon Points and your 12 Reward Tokens at the time you prepay for the year.
Going to have to show where you got that information. Should get 14,400 points and 12 tokens by spending $180 on points, but that means that the player is still a premium or free player not a VIP player.

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