An Odd IO Proc...I have no clue


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I have no clue what Fortunata's Hypnosis does, nor have I noticed it doing anything.

My mind/Psi dom uses her AOE sleep a ton. I love it and live by it.

But I bought the entire Fortunata's Hypnosis set because it was cheap and the bonsus are wonderfull.

But this 20% proc to Placate?

So...in my experience the only time I see Placate being used is by stalkers, Widows and Banes.

So, I don't actually have a stealth power (yet) I may respec into it.

But 20% chance of Placate on an AOE Sleep.

Does this mean if Im taking aggro it will take aggro off of me if I put them to sleep? Because does a sleep not already sort of do that?

I could see an illusion controller using it in Blind because it also excepts sleep IO's but Im not sure I have ever seen this do anything.

Does anyone have information on this set?


 

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Originally Posted by Nyx View Post
Does this mean if Im taking aggro it will take aggro off of me if I put them to sleep? Because does a sleep not already sort of do that?
I think the idea behind it is that Sleeps don't usually work that well on teams or with pets. You put a bunch of enemies to sleep and immediately a pet/teammate wakes them all up again. With the placate proc, when they do wake up, there's a chance they wont attack you.



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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane View Post
I think the idea behind it is that Sleeps don't usually work that well on teams or with pets. You put a bunch of enemies to sleep and immediately a pet/teammate wakes them all up again. With the placate proc, when they do wake up, there's a chance they wont attack you.

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Good enough. I use sleeps pretty much 4 times a battle. Considdering sleeps drop toggles (Like Fake Nemie FF's) so I always use my sleep.

So it it's making me placated so I can not take damage then Im fine with that,

Now If I take stealth will it put me back into stealth like a Widow?


 

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Originally Posted by Nyx View Post
Good enough. I use sleeps pretty much 4 times a battle. Considdering sleeps drop toggles (Like Fake Nemie FF's) so I always use my sleep.

So it it's making me placated so I can not take damage then Im fine with that,

Now If I take stealth will it put me back into stealth like a Widow?
No. The Placate power used by Stalkers and SoAs has multiple effects that accomplish the re-stealth (and enabling a follow-up critical attack) in addition to applying the placate effect to the target. The Placate proc just applies the placate effect to the target. It's kind of like Ninjitsu's Smoke Flash. It's placate only... no stealth.

edit: Forgot to add... I don't really see the value in this proc, especially for a Mind dom/troller. Your Mass Hypnosis already does not aggro enemies so unless you are using it against enemies already aggro on you, the Placate is meaningless. If someone wakes them up, they will likely get the aggro and even if they didn't this proc would only hit around a third of them anyway. Unless you just don't have a use for that extra enhance slot (which has never happened to me) or you really want that 5% tox resist for slotting all six... I'd pass.


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Even funnier the main ATs that use Placate (Stalkers,Banes,Widows) generally don't get sleep powers.


 

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Originally Posted by DMystic View Post
Even funnier the main ATs that use Placate (Stalkers,Banes,Widows) generally don't get sleep powers.
Electric Melee stalkers can slot the set in their tier 1 and 2 attacks.


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And Ninjitsu has Sleeping Powder.

So in all of two sets we have 3 powers for an entire AT that can slot an IO that uses an effect the AT was based on.

My point still stands.


 

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Sonic Attack's sleep power Siren's Song does damage along with the sleep. It had gotten me killed the first time I tested it out (on a bunch of AVs ). I guess a +placate would go well here.


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Originally Posted by DMystic View Post
And Ninjitsu has Sleeping Powder.

So in all of two sets we have 3 powers for an entire AT that can slot an IO that uses an effect the AT was based on.

My point still stands.
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That point was made long ago. In several other threads.

No, my point was we have this Placate IO, and it's funny the At's that get the most use from Placate effects can't use it.

Not any kind of malicious funny or sarcastic funny but genuinely humorous.


 

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In all seriousness, the Placate effect by itself is fairly useless even to a Stalker. That's why almost no one takes Smoke Flash.


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Well...I must say I do use it before, during, during and during a battle. It staggers damage caused to a tank/AOE quite well, and halts many other issues.

Yes AOE's break it, but it still works. I mean the entire concept to me of a sleep even in an AOE battle is to reduce enemy DPS, Drop Toggles, and considdering many toggles drop when hit by sleeps it works well, and not many thing can resist sleeps.

If I am placateing them and then not taking damage it works ok.

I usually open with Terrorize and then hit the AOE Sleep...and it seems to be working.

I guess my thought is that considdering it's the only purple sleep has...placate seems to be...well again, I have no idea. It;s like it should have a chance to slow? Or a chance to Stun. But even then since the sleep duration of Fortunata's Hypnosis is improved I would rarely see the effects of it's proc...almost never

But the chance to placate on the only purple slow just does not seem to make sense unless you have the ability to crit hit.

Although the set bonus put me at perma dom soooo...well I wont complain.

It just seems pointless


 

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The placate proc is awesome in PVP. Even a few seconds of re-targeting can mean a lot sometimes.

I find it mostly useless in pve.


 

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Originally Posted by DMystic View Post
And Ninjitsu has Sleeping Powder.

So in all of two sets we have 3 powers for an entire AT that can slot an IO that uses an effect the AT was based on.

My point still stands.
Really?

How many sleep powers are there in the entire game? 18 total, across ALL ATs.

Blasters have access to 6. Tanks get access to 5. Controllers get 7. Defenders get 4. Scrappers get 3. Brutes get 4. Masterminds get 2. Dominators get 8. Corruptors get 4. And Stalkers get 4.

No one really gets all that many powers that can slot a sleep set. I think the maximum is 5 on a given character, which Dominators can achieve with Mind Control/Electric Assault. And, unsurprisingly, the ATs that specialize in crowd control get access to more sleep powers than the melee ATs.

Blasters are an anomaly, they can have up to 4 sleep set accepting powers if they go with Sonic or Psychic primary paired with Electric secondary and Ice or Munitions APP.

Out of all the melee classes, only Tankers get more sleep set accepting powers than Stalkers.


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Last time I checked Blinding Powder accepted confuse sets but not sleep sets.


 

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The Chance for Placate proc only serves one good purpose that I can see.

You see, some Purple IO has to be the Least Valuable on the market. And, I'm pretty sure that = Chance for Placate.

I just 5 slot the set (leaving out the Placate chance IO) and move along.


 

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I think this proc would see some use (not much, but some) in Siren's Song or Flash Freeze, since those sleep powers generate agro with their damage component (as opposed to Mass Hypnosis or Spore Burst). In those, assuming it proc'd, even once the sleep wears off, some of the mob would not be aggroed. Af course, they could just blindly follow those that are, see you, and decide to join the poundfest, but they wouldn't do it out of anger, just lemming mentality.


 

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Originally Posted by Caulderone View Post
The Chance for Placate proc only serves one good purpose that I can see.

You see, some Purple IO has to be the Least Valuable on the market. And, I'm pretty sure that = Chance for Placate.

I just 5 slot the set (leaving out the Placate chance IO) and move along.
Yes...I did the 5 slot version of it.

The Placate was on my list of things not to buy but then I found one so I added it.

However on a side note. I am one of those people who like to luck upon a very rare reward on Bafs and Lams. Since this happens occasionally I get commons and rares, so I have now all the Destiny, Interface at tier 2 oe three. So if I use Reactive the Placate will remove the DOT aggro if I use it.


 

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Originally Posted by DMystic View Post
That point was made long ago. In several other threads.

No, my point was we have this Placate IO, and it's funny the At's that get the most use from Placate effects can't use it.

Not any kind of malicious funny or sarcastic funny but genuinely humorous.
I wouldn't slot it on a Stalker anyway, it's not like the Placate proc would give you a crit chance like the Placate power. As someone said, as useless as Smoke Flash even if every Stalker could slot it (speaking pve).