Is Fire really the king of Farming?

I know that ever since Burn got the buff, Fire has been the reigning champion but is it really all that much better?

Not enjoying the 5 target cap of Burn, I decided to do a little tinkering with Dark Armor and used a bunch of proc IOs to turn Dark Regeneration into a nasty attack. With is having double the target cap of Burn, it appears superior. Is there anything I am missing? I know Death Shroud is slightly inferior to Blazing Aura but not by a margin large enough to make up the difference. Also some people like Fiery Embrace although I never use it myself because I am constantly damage capped through inspirations.

Here is the math, tell me what I am forgetting please.

Burn: 6 Obliterations, 5.88 recharge time +198.8% recharge
5 Targets
153.7 Damage per Animation (With Reactive)
x5 = 768.5
71.8 Smashing 20% Chance
x1 = 71.8
Total Damage = 840.3



Dark Regeneration: Theft of Essence Proc, Armageddon Proc, Obliteration Proc, Scirocco's Proc, Touch of the Nictus Proc, Perfect Zinger Proc, 8.82 recharge time, +195% recharge
10 Targets
52.9 Damage per Animation (With Reactive)
x10 = 529
107.1 Fire 33% Chance
x3 = 321.3
71.8 Smashing 20% Chance
x2 - 143.6
71.8 Lethal 20% Chance
x2 = 143.6
71.8 Psi 20% Chance
x2 = 143.6
71.8 Neg Energy 20% Chance
x2 = 143.6
Total Damage = 1424.7

And then you factor in BA and FE. Also, 20% means there is a chance it happens. You have the procs doing 100% damage.

EDIT: The only end reduc you have in DR is a proc. You better hope that procs well.

There is no competition. Nothing else even comes close.

In addition to all the above:

End cost on that DR is going to basically murder you. ToE is great in DR, but not enough to spam it as an attack like that. Also unenhanced for recharge or accuracy. I know you used DPA numbers so recharge is debatable, but accuracy. Without any in DR and with the bonuses from Oblit in Burn, Burn will be hitting more often.

Also, a full set of Oblit, iirc, isn't the best slotting for Burn if enhancement values are the goal.

X/Fire > damage than X/<insert armor here>. Always.

Even /shield? With AAO and shield charge?

Yes. That combo provides a great burst damage attack but /fa provides constant high dot, an amazing aoe attack of it's own and fiery embrace adds tons of damage, moreso than aao, to everything you do. when farming you're at the damage cap fairly often. At that point aao does nothing for you, whereas FE will add even more proc damage on top of it all.

I never really notice the 5 target liability on Burn

Burn is more awesomer* than you can possibly imagine.










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*Yes that is a word now.

...not to mention the massive, massive difference in end cost between burn and dark regen.

I can only speak as a fire/fire scrapper, but I do ridiculous amounts of damage and I am survivable enough to look past any squishiness. I kind of ruined the archetype for myself though, because no other combo makes me feel so awesome.

A SS/Fire Brute is basically like a walking crashless Nuke for every spawn.

ITFs are a blast, Romans must have no fire resistance or something because they go down like they soaked their togas in Gasoline.

And my Brute is just Alpha T1 slot only Mostly Frankenslotted with a handful of sets.

I can only imagine what a 50+3 with some of the builds that were being talked about in that other thread are like.

Sure compared to my /SR scrapper the /FA brute is pretty squishy. But that's what Rise of the Phoenix is for.

My fire tank has S/L resist at 70%, NE at 50% and E at 45, in addition to Fire capped at 90%.

Of course, cold is around 23% and toxic and psi damage are practically non-existent, but, 1 purple and 1 orange and I am fine in just about any instance for the ITF...

Just depends on what you want to spend.

Burn actually does ~145 base damage at level 50 on brutes before Reactive. Additionally, I'm not seeing damage enhancement in your math. If you consider Burn at 0 Fury without damage enhancements against a procced out power, it might lose indeed.