Honestly... I'm with ya. I've wanted a dark/dark blaster for years. I'm surprised it's actually going to be added to the game.
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I doubt it will as well. But, I don't care. I just want a dark Blaster sooooo bad! Please Dev's, don't punk this set! I don't care if you put so much control in the secondary it pisses off EVERY Controller out there, but just let the Primary be BLASTERIFFIC! Just pure Dark Blasting nastyness! Don't care about fancy shmancy gimmicks. Lemme just hurl bolts of inky black death!
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I'll second this, very much looking forward to making a Dark/Dark blaster and taking it red side for the Soul Mastery.
Based on the published changes, I'm guessing it will look something like this:
Dark Blast
Gloom
Umbral Torrent
Aim
Abyssal Gaze
Moonbeam
Tenebrous Tentacles
Life Drain
Blackstar
As for Dark Manipulation, I'm picturing something along these lines, based on what was announced and what they said in the U-Stream:
Tar Pit, probably only the slow component
Smite
Shadow Maul
Fearsome Stare
Build Up (or possibly Soul Drain with/without damage component?)
Dark Pit
Midnight Grasp
Dark Consumption
*no clue*
Bottom line: I cannot wait to make my first evil blaster Dark/Dark/Soul...
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I am a blaster first, and an alt-oholic second.
I'm earmarking Dark Blast + Energy Manipulation as a popular combo.
I'm leaving my previous post as is, but I just thought of something: given that there has been no mention of removing "Tenebrous Tentacles" from the new blaster's version of Dark Blast, and Blasters have access to AoE immobilizations in the Patron Power Pools, are we going to have blasters that can immobilize entire mobs, bosses included?!
I mean, that would be kick-***, but it is just surprising...
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I see DARK MANIPULATION having these powers (not necessarily in this order)
1. Shadow Punch
2. Smite
3. Dark Consumption
4. Cloak of Darkness
5. Midnight Grasp
6. Tar Patch without the -res
7. Petrifying Gaze with damage component
8. Build-Up
9. a single target version of Fearsome Stare
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Originally Posted by Dayglow
I see DARK MANIPULATION having these powers (not necessarily in this order)
1. Shadow Punch 2. Smite 3. Dark Consumption 4. Cloak of Darkness 5. Midnight Grasp 6. Tar Patch without the -res 7. Petrifying Gaze with damage component 8. Build-Up 9. a single target version of Fearsome Stare |
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Yes! I've been wanting a Dark Blaster for a LONG time! Can't wait to see the details of the power list!
Let the speculation of powers begin!
Ideally, the tank will die precisely as everyone else starts fighting, allowing aggro to be spread evenly among the blaster. -seebs, "How to Suck at CoH/CoV" Guide
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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
I'm earmarking Dark Blast + Energy Manipulation as a popular combo.
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Ideally, the tank will die precisely as everyone else starts fighting, allowing aggro to be spread evenly among the blaster. -seebs, "How to Suck at CoH/CoV" Guide
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Originally Posted by Winterminal
I'm leaving my previous post as is, but I just thought of something: given that there has been no mention of removing "Tenebrous Tentacles" from the new blaster's version of Dark Blast, and Blasters have access to AoE immobilizations in the Patron Power Pools, are we going to have blasters that can immobilize entire mobs, bosses included?!
I mean, that would be kick-***, but it is just surprising... |
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Originally Posted by Avatea
Dark Blast and Darkness Manipulation for Blasters
We chose Dark Blast as it would be a fun control centric blast set for Blasters. The power set was changed slightly to make it a better fit for Blasters. Dark Pit was removed, Torrent and Nightfall were merged into a single power: Umbral Torrent, and then Aim and a new power Abyssal Gaze (a single target hold with a DoT component) were added to round out the set. Darkness Manipulation made a lot of sense as it was fairly low hanging fruit and would be a perfect pairing for Dark Blast. The set is made up of powers that are found in Dark Armor, Defender Dark Blast and Dark Miasma. The set can deliver crushing melee damage as well as provide a measure of crowd control and self buffs. |
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I just want my Dark/Dark Blaster to have easy access to a self-rez from his PP. Ever since my 3/Fire got one I've believed every Blaster should have it.
After 50 and debt becomes meaningless an explosive self-rez has become part of my attack chain!
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Neither Torrent or Nightfall are Teneb Tentacles........ Just saying!!
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Midnight Grasp a repeat of Life Drain??? You're thinking Siphon Life.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
They're already getting Aim in the Primary. And Life Drain in the Primary is a repeat of Midnight Grasp. And Dark Pit is moving from Blast to Manipulation... so... not so much.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
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I'll take those odds. 100m says it includes Dark Regeneration.
Looks like Blaster's Dark Blast is going to be very good. They added Aim at least!!!!
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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It lost one of it's AoEs, so hopefully the newly added attack is worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
Looks like Blaster's Dark Blast is going to be very good. They added Aim at least!!!!
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Torrent was an aoe like Gale is an aoe (OK, not quite, but the damage was still horrible - ~1/3 of Nightfall's) so... not much of a loss IMHO. As far as damage goes. They haven't said whether the merged power has KB or not so there might not even be a control loss.
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
It lost one of it's AoEs, so hopefully the newly added attack is worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Stealth_Bomber
Power Boost increases ToHit Debuffs. I'm just sayin'
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And heals.
(Oh, immobilizes too.)
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I like powers that move things around, but Torrent doesn't pack a similar punch to it's cousin in Energy Blast. I'd rather see it replaced with something like a Dark version of Fireball, because Dark Blast feels like it could really use a non-cone AoE attack.
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
It lost one of it's AoEs, so hopefully the newly added attack is worthwhile.
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You mean like Dark Obliteration? Just saying.
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Originally Posted by Midnight_Tempest
I like powers that move things around, but Torrent doesn't pack a similar punch to it's cousin in Energy Blast. I'd rather see it replaced with something like a Dark version of Fireball, because Dark Blast feels like it could really use a non-cone AoE attack.
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Originally Posted by Brynstar
Neither Torrent or Nightfall are Teneb Tentacles........ Just saying!!
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Doesn't say anything about Tenebrous Tentacles, but they've never let us double up powers in the past and Soul Tentacles in Soul Mastery is an identical clone of TT. I'm betting something will be changed there. Very possibly it will be replaced with Dark Obliteration.
I'm very surprised that Life Drain wasn't mentioned, I was pretty sure the devs would never give blasters a true self heal in a primary or secondary. Since they haven't released a power list or all the details yet, we'll have to wait and see about that one.
Curious as to what Dark Manipulation will contain as well. If Life Drain is left in the blast set, it's a safe bet that Siphon Life and Dark Regeneration will not appear in the Manipulation set.
My guess is as follows:
T1: Gravity Well or something similar, probably a single target version of Tenebrous Tentacles, or a ranged version of Midnight Grasp's immobilize.
T2: Shadow Punch or Smite
T3: Death Shroud (Electric Manipulation gets it's damage aura early, so there's precedent)
T4: Smite or Shadow Maul
T5: Build Up or possibly Soul Drain (I'd like to see Soul Drain here personally, it'd be unique among Blaster sets)
T6: Dark Consumption
T7: Fearsome Stare (I would not be surprised if this is ported as it is, it's no more powerful than Shiver)
T8: Cloak of Darkness
T9: Midnight Grasp
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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It most definitely will NOT. Maybe an altered version that has +regen, like drain psyche. They're not just going to give blasters the best heal in the game, considering no other set even has a bad one.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
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You know, that's probably very close to reality.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
My guess is as follows:
T1: Gravity Well or something similar, probably a single target version of Tenebrous Tentacles, or a ranged version of Midnight Grasp's immobilize. T2: Shadow Punch or Smite T3: Death Shroud (Electric Manipulation gets it's damage aura early, so there's precedent) T4: Smite or Shadow Maul T5: Build Up or possibly Soul Drain (I'd like to see Soul Drain here personally, it'd be unique among Blaster sets) T6: Dark Consumption T7: Fearsome Stare (I would not be surprised if this is ported as it is, it's no more powerful than Shiver) T8: Cloak of Darkness T9: Midnight Grasp |
DARK BLAST!! FINALLY!! I just hope they don't make it mushy like Pistols. I have been wanting a REAL Dark Blaster since I started playing Blasters!! Can't wait! Praying for LOTS of ST damage, AND a fear in the Manip. somewhere! Can't wait! WANT NAO!!
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