Powerset Proliferation 3.0

And then Sparkblade is added to the game as an Elec/G&S Dominator and we get epic content exploring WISDOM?

This update is looking delicious. Titan/Regen Brute, Dark/Fire Defender, Axe/WP Scrapper, Dark/Dark Blaster..

AGH

Devs, I want another page of character slots to buy.

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Knockout Blow on Scrapper multipliers + Rage x2 + crit. There are.. Quite a few balance issues at hand before the love can be spread, or so I've heard/read.

A pistol Epic really doesn't need any new animations, I don't think. Even if all powers in it were pistol-related, you can still draw on five existing ones from Dual Pistols. Or, if you're going for a single pistol, you should still be able to use that one two-handed shot that most NPCs use, as well as some of the one-handed dual pistol animations, such as Pistols and Executioner's Shot. Rebalanced, of course.

When it comes to melee AT Epics, there are three things I want: Pistols, Rifle and Bow sets.

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Speaking of redraw, this exists between Archery and Munitions Mastery, and has existed since... I2? I3? I'd be more than willing to deal with the redraw aspect of a Katana/SR/Pistols Scrapper combo if it meant I could make such a character. Then once that's possible, we can resume bugging the Art Team to finish BABs' work in removing redraw.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Because they are already getting 2 new primaries and a new secondary?

Do you really want to hear the complaining if scrappers get Energy Melee, Super Strength, Battle Axe, War Mace, and Energy Aura while other ATs get 1 or 2 new sets at most? There are more things possible to port to scrappers than would possibly be fair in one round of proliferation.

As it is, Scrappers and Brutes are getting more things ported to them than anyone else is. Giving them even MORE stuff while in some cases there aren't even any more options to give other ATs just wouldn't be fair.

Dark Blast/Dark Manipulation is pretty much the ONLY possible proliferation to blasters left at this point. Anything else they get will have to be a new set.

I also suspect that Super Strength for scrappers isn't just going to be a direct port. If I were the devs, I would definitely be concerned that double-stacked rage and the ability to crit with a scrapper's damage modifier would end up being too powerful. It is possible to have full time double stacked Rage, if scrapper values compared to tanks and brutes were carried over (as far as Build Up is concerned) that would be a permanent 200% damage boost that a SS scrapper could acquire. With scrapper's already high damage modifier that could (and probably would) end up being pretty overpowered.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

I would seriously kill for APP/Pool customization. Or even the ability to turn the effects OFF. The pink scribbles all over my darkblue/black themed Mind/Storm controller from the Psi APP armor makes me scream. Not to mention TURNING OFF HASTEN FX!

And that's why I have a petless Demon MM. Hate the huge noisy gross pets, LOVE that attack set.

I'm still going to hold it against you. It's the least I could do.

...curse you, I'm now seriously considering rerolling my Ninja/Pain, and this after just hitting 39 last night

I'm hoping it opens the door for my long-awaited Elemental Mastermind primary

YES YES YES for Pistol ancillaries for melee ATs. But I still think a "Martial Arts" Blaster secondary and a "Gun Fu" (Dual Pistols and a punchy Martial Arts using the pistols as blunt weapons) Dominator secondary would be great

Do people really add APP attacks into their chain? Honestly curious, I've felt they come way too late (what happened to the chain you've been using for the last 40+ levels) and the effects not good enough (so they don't match up to the original powers) to fit it/them in

Not necessarily true. /"Martial Arts" is doable, I'm thinking a hybrid of MA and Trick Arrow. Here's a general idea

Thunder Kick
Entangling Arrow or Glue Arrow
Storm Kick
Build Up
Crane Kick
Flash Arrow
Ice Arrow or Cobra Strike
Oil Slick or Dragon's Tail
Eagle's Claw

Or throw in some Kinetic Melee in there (I'm not too familiar with it). They could also add an /Earth Manipulation secondary, then add a proper Earth Blast primary later like they did with Electric Assault and Electric Control

Excellent, more powers - always good. New alts.

If this ever get's done I would love to see a doppelganger option for the various pets

I like your thinking.

Hey, it's a classic pirate combo!

I'm pumped about /EA getting some love. I used it once on a stalker in my 4th or 5th month and learned about it a bit later. I already rerolled my Kin melee brute to reserve the name too lol. But if entropy shield is getting:

"Entropy Shield is now Entropic Aura for Scrappers and Brutes. This power is a taunt aura that grants the user a scaling recharge buff based on the number of foes surrounding the user. The Stalker version of the set doesn't have a taunt aura, but it offers a small Recharge bonus."

Then what will be the mezz protection? or will it just do both?

It was also used in the City of Hero trailer, so I don't mean to say it's unheard of. It just really, REALLY doesn't work for me. It bugs the hell out of me, in fact, in much the same way as using a single one-handed weapon and nothing in the off hand. Just not something I like. What really does me in, though, is using a gun in the left hand. Maybe I'm biassed as a right-handed person, but to me it always seems awkward to put your gun in your offhand, like it's a secondary weapon. I've seen it used in quite a few fictional environments, such as Warhammer 40 000 and... There was that one game about angels and demons that had this setup, but I forget what it's called.

Mostly, my biass is Devil May Cry. This was the first game which showed me that you can use more types of weapons than you have free hands by insta-switching between them, and STILL make it look good in real action. That's why I don't like forcing odd pairs of weapons together as a static set when they can be made as different, self-contained sets. I really don't want to be using a gun/sword combo. What I want to use is guns AND a sword, but not necessarily both at the same time and not necessarily both in the same situations. Having access to two different classes of weapons doesn't have to mean dual-wielding both weapons at all times.

As an example, I give you Onimusha 3: Demon Siege. In that game, Samonoske spends most of his time using a collection of bizarre swords, but when enemies shoot at him from out of reach, he uses a bow that's still pretty dang lethal. I wouldn't expect him to cycle through bow and sword attacks in the same combo, but having access to two weapons gives the character a much wider tool kit, conceptually speaking.

If, for instance, I wanted to make a pirate (for whatever strange reason that might be), I'd want said pirate to have access to a sword with which he could swordfight, a gun with which he could shoot at range, and only then would I consider using both in the same fight.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I've been asking for this since like 2004

^_^

As have I. What could possibly be better than playing the powersets you like AND on the ATs that you want to play?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Yes I remember that too, and you're right about synergistic defenders. but for a Mastermind, this will be great with any set that can take Achille's heel: chance for -res (Jounin, Enforcers, Soldiers, etc.) but for Demons, who already produce smaller +res shields, it will be great to stack with the sonic shields.

True. But that was only because they had one, maybe two shots, and then they needed to discard the gun.

Now, don't get me wrong. Wielding a gun and blade at the same time can look awesome, regardless of how unrealistic it is. And in a game where people fly and shoot lasers from their eyes... realism isn't too big a concern.

BUT - it's a narrow niche appeal. Just like those forsaken Dual Pistol animations... they only fit certain character types, and if you don't play one of those, then it just looks stupid.

Now... a character that HAS bot, but uses them one at a time... that's got a broader application...

Just like those enormous titanic weapons, right??

:P

Meh... Titan Weapons look like it will also be another way to express 'Super Strength,' which broadens its appeal.