Electric or Illusion/Cold?

Hi there!

I'm on a controller kick right now, and I'd really like your suggestion on this.

Ill/Cold or Elec/Cold?

These two sets, after years of playing this game, are without a doubt my two favorite control sets. I've played every single set into the thirties (after writing this statement, I went back and verified it was true, which honestly horrified me and made me promise to myself that I'd go outside more), and these two are the only ones I've ever kept up with enough to run through Incarnate trials.

Why /Cold? I've never MADE a /Cold anything that lasted more than a few levels. I would always pair it with ice for thematic reasons and then get mad and quit because I'm not fond of Ice Blast (except on Blasters) or Ice Control.

I have an Illusion/Cold at 50, and it is one of my favorites. On team, my Ill/Cold substantially improves our AV killing speed and safety. Ill/Rad is still my favorite, but Cold is one of the best pairings with Illusion, as the -Resistance in the set helps PA be much better. Since Illusion gets many of its good powers early, it helps you get through the time that it takes until you get those best Cold powers so late.

Electric . . . I just haven't been as impressed with Electric control, mostly because of the conflicts with other sets. The damage is too low to solo until late, and then you rely heavily on the pets. But there are many teams with powers that will conflict with your Electric Control powers - - like anything with Damage over Time. Team with a Fire Controller who likes to use Fire Cages, and you may as well forget about half of your control powers.

My Elec Control experience with with my Elec/Rad and an Elec/Earth Dom. I haven't specifically tried an Elec/Cold -- and I don't exactly have a strong desire to make one. I would rather pair Plant with Cold.

Check out Boomie's thread on Elec/Cold antics: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...73#post3705873

I rolled one of these and have been having fun soloing GMs.

But I agree with Local_Man, Elec/ is a late blooming set for damage, relies on pet damage, and doesn't always play well with others' DoT attacks.

Decided on Ill/Cold, and it's pretty solid so far at level 8. Having prior experience with my Ill/Rad has helped make power choices fairly easy. So far I have Blind, Spectral Wounds, Deceive, Infrigidate, Superior Invisibility, and Ice Shield. This guy already holds his own in a team, and solo is so simple that it's boring.

What strikes me first is how FAST Cold Domination animates. I'm used to my Ill/Rad, where RI leaves you rooted for what feels like forever. Since Infrigidate *IS* my RI/EM for the next thirty levels, I'm glad it fires off as fast as Flares. Missing the the ability to heal myself, but I've taken a more cautious stance when going through missions and haven't actually died since I joined a lv 41 Morality mission team about thirty seconds after I rolled up the character (I asked for an invite as a joke, advertising the controller as being level 1, and they took him anyway).

Now I want a Blaster to duo with...

I was wondering...How easy is it to go Perma PA on an Illusion/Cold Controller versus an Illusion/Radiation? You have a lot more places to put LotG: Recharges into the Ill/Cold build, but you lose AM.

Also, How many slots should I put into Infrigidate and Frostworks? My tentative power selection is, currently, this:

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Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Cold Domination
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01: Blind => Empty(1)
01: Infrigidate => Empty(1)
02: Deceive => Empty(2)
04: Ice Shield => Empty(4)
06: Spectral Wounds => Empty(6)
08: Superior Invisibility => Empty(8)
10: Glacial Shield => Empty(10)
12: Hover => Empty(12)
14: Fly => Empty(14)
16: Hasten => Empty(16)
18: Phantom Army => Empty(18)
20: Arctic Fog => Empty(20)
22: Frostwork => Empty(22)
24: Flash => Empty(24)
26: Spectral Terror => Empty(26)
28: Benumb => Empty(28)
30: Snow Storm => Empty(30)
32: Phantasm => Empty(32)
35: Sleet => Empty(35)
38: Heat Loss => Empty(38)
41: Fire Blast => Empty(41)
44: Fire Ball => Empty(44)
47: Consume => Empty(47)
49: Fire Shield => Empty(49)

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01: Brawl => Empty(1)
01: Sprint => Empty(1)
02: Rest => Empty(2)

One Acc and an Achilles' Heel proc is good enough for infrigidate. I personally never take Frostworks so I can't comment on that.

Here's the build I am working towards. I also skipped Frostworks, but it could easily be fit in. I took Fly & Hover AND Super Speed, which I did just because I like having them. I use Arctic Frost + Super Speed for Invis almost all the time.

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Ill-Cold Final: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blind -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(3), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(3), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), HO:Nucle(5), Dmg-I(7)
Level 1: Infrigidate -- Acc-I(A), Achilles-ResDeb%(17)
Level 2: Spectral Wounds -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(7), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Decim-Build%(11), HO:Nucle(11)
Level 4: Deceive -- CoPers-Conf/Rchg(A), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(13), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(13), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(15), CoPers-Conf%(15)
Level 6: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(43)
Level 8: Superior Invisibility -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 10: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 18: Phantom Army -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(19), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(21), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(21), S'bndAl-Build%(23)
Level 20: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(27), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(31)
Level 22: Flash -- UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(A), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(23), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(25), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(25), UbrkCons-Dam%(27)
Level 24: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Spectral Terror -- Abys-Acc/Rchg(A), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(40), Abys-Fear/Rng(43), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(46), Abys-Dam%(46)
Level 28: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 30: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Phantasm -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), HO:Nucle(34)
Level 35: Sleet -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), LdyGrey-%Dam(36), Posi-Dam%(36), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 38: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(40), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Ice Blast -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apoc-Dmg(42), Apoc-Dam%(43)
Level 44: Frost Breath -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Knock%(46)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48)
Level 49: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany
Level 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Warworks Core Superior Ally
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(34), Mrcl-Heal(37), Mrcl-Rcvry+(37)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(31), EndMod-I(34)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 18.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 18.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 18.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 18.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 18.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 18.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 18.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 18.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 2.5% Defense(Energy)
• 2.5% Defense(Negative)
• 1.25% Defense(Ranged)
• 2.25% Max End
• 2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
• 48% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 4% Enhancement(Confused)
• 120% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 5% FlySpeed
• 83.9 HP (8.25%) HitPoints
• 5% JumpHeight
• 5% JumpSpeed
• Knockback (Mag -4)
• Knockup (Mag -4)
• MezResist(Confused) 5%
• MezResist(Held) 5%
• MezResist(Immobilize) 9.95%
• MezResist(Sleep) 5%
• MezResist(Stun) 5%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 5%
• 18% (0.3 End/sec) Recovery
• 84% (3.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 6.3% Resistance(Fire)
• 6.3% Resistance(Cold)
• 5% RunSpeed

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Hmm...Unless there's a big reason to skip Frostworks I'll probably take it in lieu of Super Speed to help buff up Phantasm a bit more. Superior Invisibility and Arctic Fog seem like enough stealth, unless having both gives some kind of incredible ability like allowing one to run under the radar High Perception enemies like Rikti Drones.

If you want to you could just place a cheap Unbounded Leap +stealth proc into sprint and just run it and Artic Fog and pick up something else instead of Superior/Group Invis.

Also like Microcosm said no amount of +stealth in the game can protect you from a rikti drone's sight BUT you can zip by them quick enough before all the other rikti get a chance to attack you. I've stealthed plenty of lady grey's by just using fly/ninja run, sprint(with proc) and artic fog with no problems.

I am presently working on an ill/cold build. So many optiosn totake, so many ideas and then, not much room to select everything ... hahahaha but, I do want to get what is more important to my taste in plying this AT. Unlike /Rad, it has no healing power but if played right, it may not need one.

The toon is currently lvl 30 something but it is a lvl 50 but I did not train up to that point yet.

Here is an idea build that is most likely to built to. Even tho I might redo this build again because its not really a team-oriented build. So I don't know if i should keep the extra shileds for Phantasm or ....

Here's the build. Please critque!

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Goonus Frost 2: Level 50 Technology Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Spectral Wounds -- Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(A), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(43), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(46), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(46), Decim-Build%:40(50), HO:Nucle(50)
Level 1: Infrigidate -- LdyGrey-DefDeb:50(A), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg:50(13), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx:50(15), Acc-I:50(27), HO:Micro(46)
Level 2: Blind -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold:30(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg:30(17), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold:30(37), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(40), HO:Nucle(40), Dmg-I:50(43)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- HO:Micro(A), TmpRdns-Acc/Dmg/Slow:50(7), TmpRdns-Acc/Slow:50(13), TmpRdns-Rng/Slow:50(17)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(7)
Level 8: Deceive -- CoPers-Conf/Rchg:50(A), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg:50(9), CoPers-Acc/Rchg:50(9), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx:50(11), CoPers-Conf%:50(15)
Level 10: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(11)
Level 12: Hover -- Ksmt-ToHit+:30(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Phantom Army -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg:50(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg:50(19), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx:50(19), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(21), S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(21), S'bndAl-Build%:50(34)
Level 20: Group Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 22: Flash -- UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg:50(A), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg:50(23), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg:50(23), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold:50(25), UbrkCons-Dam%:50(27)
Level 24: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(25)
Level 26: Spectral Terror -- HO:Lyso(A)
Level 28: Benumb -- Acc-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(31), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(34), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(34)
Level 32: Phantasm -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg:50(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg:50(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33)
Level 35: Sleet -- Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(36), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(36), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), Posi-Dam%:50(37), DefDeb-I:50(37)
Level 38: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(39), TmpRdns-Acc/Slow:50(39), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx:50(40)
Level 41: Ice Blast -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Apoc-Acc/Rchg:50(42), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Apoc-Dam%:50(43)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(45)
Level 47: Ice Storm -- Ragnrk-Dmg:50(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg:50(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg:50(48), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(5)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(3), P'Shift-End%:50(5)
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 14% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 14% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 14% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 14% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 14% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 14% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 14% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 14% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 3% Defense(Melee)
• 3% Defense(Smashing)
• 3% Defense(Lethal)
• 3% Defense(Fire)
• 3% Defense(Cold)
• 5.5% Defense(Energy)
• 5.5% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 4.25% Defense(Ranged)
• 3% Defense(AoE)
• 2.25% Max End
• 1.5% Enhancement(JumpHeight)
• 57% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 1.5% Enhancement(FlySpeed)
• 1.5% Enhancement(JumpSpeed)
• 4% Enhancement(Confused)
• 1.5% Enhancement(RunSpeed)
• 110% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 5% FlySpeed
• 110.6 HP (10.9%) HitPoints
• 5% JumpHeight
• 5% JumpSpeed
• Knockback (Mag -4)
• Knockup (Mag -4)
• MezResist(Confused) 5%
• MezResist(Held) 5%
• MezResist(Immobilize) 7.75%
• MezResist(Sleep) 5%
• MezResist(Stun) 5%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 5%
• 27.5% (0.46 End/sec) Recovery
• 72% (3.05 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 6.62% Resistance(Fire)
• 6.62% Resistance(Cold)
• 5% RunSpeed

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Actually, Helluva, it is a pretty good build. Just for comparison, here is the build that I am working for. (I'm too cheap to go out and buy those expensive purple sets. I'm slowly getting a few of them as drops and then picking up others one by one.) My build has just a few small changes from yours. (Actually, I took your build and made the changes that I plan to follow -- the order of powers I use will be a little different.)

I don't bother slotting for Slow, as several powers have Slow in them such that there is no need to slot it. I like having Recall Friend for stealthing missions. And most of all, slotting Sleet up with procs ends up being a LOT of damage. I used Frost Breath rather than Ice Storm . . . I like the fast-recharging power better.

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Florida Snowman: Level 50 Technology Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Spectral Wounds -- Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(43), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Decim-Build%(50), HO:Nucle(50)
Level 1: Infrigidate -- Acc-I(A)
Level 2: Blind -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(3), HO:Nucle(13), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(13), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(17), Dmg-I(17)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- HO:Micro(A), EndRdx-I(7)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: Deceive -- CoPers-Conf/Rchg(A), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(9), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(9), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(11), CoPers-Conf%(15)
Level 10: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(11)
Level 12: Recall Friend -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 16: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Phantom Army -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(19), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(19), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(21), S'bndAl-Build%(34)
Level 20: Group Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Flash -- UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(A), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(23), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(23), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(25), UbrkCons-Dam%(27)
Level 24: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(25)
Level 26: Spectral Terror -- Abys-Acc/Rchg(A), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(27), Abys-Fear/Rng(40), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(43), Abys-Dam%(46)
Level 28: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(34), S'fstPrt-ResKB(34)
Level 32: Phantasm -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), HO:Nucle(37)
Level 35: Sleet -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), LdyGrey-%Dam(36), Achilles-ResDeb%(36), Posi-Dam%(37), ImpSwft-Dam%(37)
Level 38: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(39), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(40), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Ice Blast -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Apoc-Dam%(43)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45)
Level 47: Frost Breath -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(5), Numna-Heal(15)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), EndMod-I(3), P'Shift-End%(5)
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 16.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 16.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 3% Defense(Melee)
• 3% Defense(Smashing)
• 3% Defense(Lethal)
• 3% Defense(Fire)
• 3% Defense(Cold)
• 5.5% Defense(Energy)
• 5.5% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 4.25% Defense(Ranged)
• 3% Defense(AoE)
• 2.25% Max End
• 4% Enhancement(Confused)
• 57% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 115% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
• 5% FlySpeed
• 95.4 HP (9.38%) HitPoints
• 5% JumpHeight
• 5% JumpSpeed
• Knockback (Mag -12)
• Knockup (Mag -12)
• MezResist(Confused) 5%
• MezResist(Held) 5%
• MezResist(Immobilize) 7.75%
• MezResist(Sleep) 5%
• MezResist(Stun) 5%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 5%
• 17% (0.28 End/sec) Recovery
• 94% (3.98 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 5.04% Resistance(Fire)
• 5.04% Resistance(Cold)
• 5% RunSpeed

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any middle of the road builds price-wise? I guess that mostly means no purples. with the sig arc merits I can actually afford the LoTGs

I just started an Ill/Cold on a whim, I think I want lots of recharge and S/L defense, or possibly ranged defense if it's easier to achieve, but at lvl15 I haven't yet fully started to figure out how to play with all the toys it offers.

Local,

Isnt the defense on your ice shields a bit skimpy? I guess it is fine tho.

Lewis

Cool. I dont focus on defense on most of my Illusionisys either. I usually prefer to also throw on a 3rd slot for ally buffs, usually the lotg def/end, lotg def, and lotg def/global.

But fair enough.

Lewis

I think Local was talking about his personal Ice Shield toggle and Lewis was talking about his ally shield? Or did I miss something.

Yes, but he did address my question by saying (I believe) that the ally shields were enough baseline def in a team situation. At least I seem to remember. Its hard to check until I submit. Darned brick I am posting with makes it a pain to reference mid post.

Thanks MM!

Lewis

Ahhh, now I see. I misread the first time through. Personally, if this were a teamed controller I'd disagree with that philosophy. But that's just one opinion.

i have an ill/cold whose really awesome, i personally did take frostwork because it is a great ally buff and helps phantasm stay alive, also with a set of doc wounds it gives you the 5% rech bonus as well as enough enhancement to give anything +994 max hp and with my high rech i can keep half or more of the team at hp cap as well as throwing ice and glacial shields to pump up the defenses

It's true that things like rikti drones, eyes of rularru, etc ignore stealth. Where Illusion is superior for stealthing is that you can confuse them to avoid detection. Powers like Smoke Grenade or Flash Arrow also work but only reduce the detection range a bit.

Stalkers also get to make use of placate to get through tight spots.