True Blood, Season 4
I've fully accepted the changes to the show, so it's not a complaint but I wish they had the were's more like the books.
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Since the TV show can't be as detailed as the books it's clear they had to simplify/streamline how things are presented. Things like how the Fairies and Weres "work" had to be made much more straightforward. I doubt we'll ever see many of the side characters that helped flesh out the those cultures in the books. Also they had to rework even the main TV characters to make them fit into the abbreviated storyline. For example if they didn't make Bill the new King of Louisiana then there probably wouldn't have been much point keeping the presumably popular Stephen Moyer around as a regular cast member. For those who don't know by the sixth or seventh book Bill became such a minor character that he barely got a few pages per book.
All in all I like the TV show. But for me it's sort of like watching the "Mirror, Mirror" version of the original Sookie Stackhouse universe. I keep expecting to see Bill or Eric on-screen with an "Evil Spock" beard.
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I've read the first 11 Stackhouse books -and- seen every episode of True Blood so far. I obviously love both of them but frankly it's maddening trying to keep up with all the differences between the two storylines.
Spolier-ish book comments ahead... Since the TV show can't be as detailed as the books it's clear they had to simplify/streamline how things are presented. Things like how the Fairies and Weres "work" had to be made much more straightforward. I doubt we'll ever see many of the side characters that helped flesh out the those cultures in the books. Also they had to rework even the main TV characters to make them fit into the abbreviated storyline. For example if they didn't make Bill the new King of Louisiana then there probably wouldn't have been much point keeping the presumably popular Stephen Moyer around as a regular cast member. For those who don't know by the sixth or seventh book Bill became such a minor character that he barely got a few pages per book. All in all I like the TV show. But for me it's sort of like watching the "Mirror, Mirror" version of the original Sookie Stackhouse universe. I keep expecting to see Bill or Eric on-screen with an "Evil Spock" beard. |
I understand why the show can't be like the books. I get it. I've written here in these very forums all the reasons why the show can't be like the books, many times. I even said in my post, "I fully accept it's different". I too, love both the books and the show as related but separate entities and have read and seen them all as well. All I said was I wished Were's were more like the books. Not they ruined it. Not OMG why can't it be more like that. Not I'll quit if they don't interpret it 100% accurate. Not would someone please tell me why it's not like that. Just I wish. I just like that twist CH put on Were's and wished......not demanded the show would do that too. That's all.
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Sigh.......... I should have known not to write something like that.
I understand why the show can't be like the books. I get it. I've written here in these very forums all the reasons why the show can't be like the books, many times. I even said in my post, "I fully accept it's different". I too, love both the books and the show as related but separate entities and have read and seen them all as well. All I said was I wished Were's were more like the books. Not they ruined it. Not OMG why can't it be more like that. Not I'll quit if they don't interpret it 100% accurate. Not would someone please tell me why it's not like that. Just I wish. I just like that twist CH put on Were's and wished......not demanded the show would do that too. That's all. |
I wasn't really posting negatively against what you said. It was more just acknowledging your idea and expanding on it. For what it's worth I sort of wish the TV version of the Weres was a bit more like the book version too. I was simply saying that I understood why the changes were made, not that they ruined it per se.
Ultimately I can accept the TV version as an "alternate reality" book universe well enough and enjoy both.
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Damn those text based contextual misunderstandings!
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Noooo!!!!! Jessica!!!!!!
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Excellent episode. Love Pam - you go girl! err zombie vampire decomposing skin reconstruction pam? Poor Pam. And Jessica - noooo omgz. Lets hope Jason saves the day on that one.
SPOLIERS ALERT (from the books)...
In the Sookie Stackhouse novels Jason is bitten by the Hotshot Were-panthers and then actually becomes a Were-panther himself. Unlike what's been explained on the TV show a person in the books can either be born a Were or bitten to become a Were. A bitten Were can only change at the full moon whereas a born Were can potentially change whenever they want to. So it was kind of a twist that the TV show decided to claim that people who are bitten can't become Weres.
Of course that's probably some kind of "red herring" and we'll learn that Jason is somehow unique in that regard.
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Not Jessica...
She's too hot to die!
SPOILERS:
Jessica cant die.
She is too hot and interesting to die.
Loving Pam more each day, she is really to die for.
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Spoiler I guess?
Predicting Jason as werepanther next ep, Jessica rescued by Jason which dramallamas Jason and Hoyt's relationship, and please will someone kill that God damned witch. Also what gives with the werewolf pack sideshow, the whole werewolf story line doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and man that alpha dude couldn't look greasier if he tried.
Also I really, REALLY hope someone kills Tara, she is tied with Sookie for the worst character on this show and now she is complicit in wholesale vampire murder. Really I would love to watch the Eric and Pam Hour costarring Lafayette the other characters are middling at best.
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You know, the fact that Pam sleeps in a pink coffin says so much about her.
Tara is turning into the Claire of the show (re: Claire from Heroes) in that they don't really know what they want to do with her. I really enjoyed the firey, mouthy Tara of Season 1. Now I can't wait for something really bad to happen to her. Giving her the lesbian cagefighter subplot this season (much like Claire from season 4 of Heroes) really feels more like a Hail Mary pass than an interesting twist to the character.
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Pam was easily one of the most entertaining characters from the books. I'm glad they translated her well into the TV show. I'm hoping she gets fixed up by the end of the season because if they kill her off I'd be really bummed out.
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OK, I'm now all caught up on S4 so far and I have these notes
-Pam, just Pam, Love it.
-This season is quickly becoming my favorite so far, love the inclusion of witches in an intriguing and semi-realistic way.
-Like others I was quickly getting annoyed with the Arlene's baby subplot, until the (Spoiler, but if you're on the thread you already know it) "baby not yours" was written on the wall and the Haitian (at least I think so, she was singing in what sounded like french, but it is Louisiana so who knows) spirit started appearing, now I'm fascinated with it.
-For me the Jason-as-a-werepanther-subplot kindof feels tacked on, especially now that were at the 7th episode it seems like a bother and kind of an excuse to keep Alcide and Debbie on the show (probably for contractual reasons) UNLESS this is all building up to a big out of nowhere dramafest at the end of S4 and/or Majorish plot of S5
OK, now for what I think is gonna happen
-Sam will be driven to kill Tommy, consequences of which will form a good chunk of S5
-Arlene's baby thing will be solved by LaFayette
-Eric is gonna regain his memory back at the end of the season and go right back to being a dick, or see that his blank self achieved what he previously couldn't and stay with Sookie to spite Bill
-Sadly I also think Pam's gonna be killed, either by the spell or the AVL for her Tara+cameras stunt. if Bill kills her AND Eric regains his memory, there's gonna be some epic drama come S5
-Tara no clue, half care, I liked her Season 1 and 2 character.
-I hope Jesus doesn't die. (lol that sentence looks funny) I like him he's cool, an actual level headed character for once.
-I like Marnie, but sadly I think killing her is the only way to rid Bon Temps of Antonia.
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Like others I was quickly getting annoyed with the Arlene's baby subplot, until the (Spoiler, but if you're on the thread you already know it) "baby not yours" was written on the wall and the Haitian (at least I think so, she was singing in what sounded like french, but it is Louisiana so who knows) spirit started appearing, now I'm fascinated with it.
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For me the Jason-as-a-werepanther-subplot kindof feels tacked on, especially now that were at the 7th episode it seems like a bother and kind of an excuse to keep Alcide and Debbie on the show (probably for contractual reasons) UNLESS this is all building up to a big out of nowhere dramafest at the end of S4 and/or Majorish plot of S5.
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Thoughts on last Sunday's episode:
- Pretty predictable that Jason would save Jessica; I thought he'd have to go into panther mode to have the strength to keep her out of the sun, but fortunately Marnie stopped the spell.
- If I would have posted a recap for the episode prior to this, it would have mentioned how unfortunate it was that, despite their close connection, we've obviously needed more scenes with Bill and Jessica; this week, I was glad to see some interaction between Bill and Jason.
- Well, it looks like Tara is firmly committed to Marnie's cause, but I doubt Marnie will survive long enough to be able to teach her anything; perhaps Antonia will possess Tara? Or Lafayette?
- Even though Andy is a little more at home being the screw up character, I was really hoping we were done with that sort of nonsense last season with Jason because I have a low tolerance for dumb characters without good intentions.
- I'm actually starting to like Alcide and Debbie's new pack leader.
- Thank god that was a dream, Jessica.
- I don't recall Sookie tripping out like that when she was with Bill, and she had some of his blood, so was Eric's blood that much more potent or does this have something to do with Sookie's faerie heritage?
- Alright, I'm not sure whether the fake or real confrontation between Jessica and Hoyt was more destructive; on one hand, it really sucks to see one of the nicest characters on the show explode like that, but he's kinda got points.
- Maybe I'd be as ripped as Jason if I had to do pushups whenever I felt attracted to Jessica.
- As predicted, Tommy is up to shenanigans; let's hope he doesn't develop a tolerance for skinwalking and moves on with his parents.
- Good show of loyalty, Jason, but you can't resist that hotness forever.
- For a minute there I thought they were going to try to write off Rene's homicidal tendencies to possession, but in any case, I'm hoping they wrap up or tie whatever's happening with that ghost that's stalking Mikey and Lafayette in a hurry.
- Still shocked when Jessica was kicked out of two houses in one night, though; that can't be good for her budding killer instinct.
- Welp, the whole me liking Alcide's and Debbie's new pack leader lasted for a good 15 minutes.
- Damn, Antonia is more powerful than I thought; necromancy, illusions, and weather control? I'm wondering if they're just trying to figure out ways to make her more of a threat than Russell.
- I was wondering how the hell Tara would make it out of this plot alive; guess we have the answer.
- Man, even though it was awesome to see Sookie and Debbie throw down last season, I really hate rehashing the same plot, which looks like where we're headed.
- Let's see if Pam comes to Eric's aid; it certainly seemed like the bond between maker and progeny can overcome Antonia's spell, but will they go as far as having Eric watch Pam getting killed to snap out of it?
- With all the vampires' resources, they sure seem to have a hard time hiring a sniper to take out Marnie.
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Pretty predictable that Jason would save Jessica; I thought he'd have to go into panther mode to have the strength to keep her out of the sun, but fortunately Marnie stopped the spell.
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Well, it looks like Tara is firmly committed to Marnie's cause, but I doubt Marnie will survive long enough to be able to teach her anything; perhaps Antonia will possess Tara? Or Lafayette?
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I don't recall Sookie tripping out like that when she was with Bill, and she had some of his blood, so was Eric's blood that much more potent or does this have something to do with Sookie's faerie heritage?
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Alright, I'm not sure whether the fake or real confrontation between Jessica and Hoyt was more destructive; on one hand, it really sucks to see one of the nicest characters on the show explode like that, but he's kinda got points.
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For a minute there I thought they were going to try to write off Rene's homicidal tendencies to possession, but in any case, I'm hoping they wrap up or tie whatever's happening with that ghost that's stalking Mikey and Lafayette in a hurry.
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Man, even though it was awesome to see Sookie and Debbie throw down last season, I really hate rehashing the same plot, which looks like where we're headed.
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Eric regains his memories when the spell on him is broken in the books. I figure what we'll see is that Antonia is trying to kill Eric and somehow gets interrupted, which breaks all the spells she frying him with.
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My thoughts on the episode.
-I want to see Sam and Marcus fight, that'd be cool.
-I too was flipping out during Jessica's dream (HOLY CRAP DID SHE... WHAAAAT!)
-Jessica's officially at rock bottom, I foresee her turning into a wild child as a result.
-I think they've officially combined the Arlene's baby plot with the witch plot now.
-The graveyard fight scene at the end was cool
-I think Tommy is gonna leave Sam alone, but, try and screw up everyone else's life... *thinks* OOH! theory! Tommy's gonna jump in and kill Marcus when Sam and Marcus fight.
-Ya, Debbie, gonna get killed, either by Sookie or Alcide.
- Pam better not get killed, but might.
-Tara... I don't dislike her character, she's just used poorly, Might get killed though.
-Even if he was mad, I thought Hoyt's jab at Jessica's "bedroom" problem (if you know what I mean) was a really low blow for him to pull.
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