Not really since free play people would not be able to pvp and the problem to start is a lack of pvp population 
I think a lot of the old time pvpers would come back to play for free - even do some sg type arena stuff - if it was no hd no ts and no incarnates to make it even.
Free accounts can't use IOs though.
Even if they can not use Invention Origin enhancements, I do not believe they should be excluded from PvP.
Like fur said, the problem is a lack of PvP Population. If the new players are never introduced to it, it will never become big.
Heck who knows, maybe they will over-haul this current system before FREEdom hits, so people who come from other PvP-centric games may be familiar with the system. (doubtful but hopeful nonetheless)
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Premium players will probably be able to use IOs and I think most returning PvPers will fall into that category...
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I think Freedom or any other "regular" server should be the unofficial PvP server instead of the new VIP one.
I agree that you will have lots of returning vets looking to play with their old friends. As I understand it, returning players are somewhere in between the F2P group and the VIP group. The longer they had a paid subscription the closer they are to VIP.
I also think that existing characters would not lose IOs they already have. Don't know about respecs though.
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Why not just use Freedom? It's basically been the big PvP server since test has been out of the picture. No objections to ViP here at all though.
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Who would pay just for pvp.
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Originally Posted by Cooking Music
Who would pay just for pvp.
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I didn't realize the f2p accounts couldn't use IO set. Team arena events with no IOs might be a lot of fun.
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Those who are ever so bored of the insanely easy PvE.
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Originally Posted by Cooking Music
Who would pay just for pvp.
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Or those who take PVP way too serious.
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Originally Posted by BattleWraith
I didn't realize the f2p accounts couldn't use IO set. Team arena events with no IOs might be a lot of fun.
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Which isn't much different from TK and Soulstorm I suppose.
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Or those who take PVP way too serious.
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Good lord, the attitude that you run around with in regards to PvP is ridiculously irritating.
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Agreed. A f2p league levels the IO field, maybe limits the array of toons brought (vets have way more 50 pvp toons), and might bring in more players, especially the casual ones
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Originally Posted by BattleWraith
I didn't realize the f2p accounts couldn't use IO set. Team arena events with no IOs might be a lot of fun.
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Yeah plus F2P = no incarnates.
I'd be down for SO PVP. We could actually recruit people from every MMORPG to take part.
I am interested....
SO PvP solves nothing. Kb is pretty abusable.
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I could be off on the numbers, but for argument's sake, acro can be enhanced to ~12 kb with 3 SO's and increase density gives 10 kb. One of the higher kb powers I know of is force bolt with can be enhanced to ~50 kb with 3 SO's. So to counter it you would need acro enhanced and 4 ID's; I think ID kb stacks from the same source so it might be plausible to have 2 kins give 2 ID's each. Not easy to do every 60 seconds in the arena, but I guess my point is that most kb could be countered in SO pvp if the team planned ahead. Can't think of anything realistic that would counter powerboosted forcebolt though...
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Not really, you just bring something with more than mag 9 KB and have knockback spikes that damage spam people to death as they try to recover.
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I don't think powerboost affects KB anymore. It used to once upon a time.
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Keeping 2 ID's per Kin stacked on every person on the team would be bad enough given the stop-start nature of post-I13 PvP, let alone trying to do that while being the main target since you won't have enough KB protection as one of the two Kins.
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Originally Posted by Sabin
I could be off on the numbers, but for argument's sake, acro can be enhanced to ~12 kb with 3 SO's and increase density gives 10 kb. One of the higher kb powers I know of is force bolt with can be enhanced to ~50 kb with 3 SO's. So to counter it you would need acro enhanced and 4 ID's; I think ID kb stacks from the same source so it might be plausible to have 2 kins give 2 ID's each. Not easy to do every 60 seconds in the arena, but I guess my point is that most kb could be countered in SO pvp if the team planned ahead. Can't think of anything realistic that would counter powerboosted forcebolt though...
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Originally Posted by macskull
Keeping 2 ID's per Kin stacked on every person on the team would be bad enough given the stop-start nature of post-I13 PvP, let alone trying to do that while being the main target since you won't have enough KB protection as one of the two Kins.
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No doubt it would be tough but the new aoe buff system would make it easier than the old targeted buffing. Huddle, ID, SB, ID, about 3-4 seconds? Having a couple of cold def/corr/trollers or poison corr/trollers/MMs might also be effective at neutralizing a lot of knockback. Anyway, my goal wasn't to argue about strategery but just to point out that the kb is uber argument isn't a good reason not to consider f2p / SO pvp. If there's no interest though, that is a good reason.
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Originally Posted by macskull
Keeping 2 ID's per Kin stacked on every person on the team would be bad enough given the stop-start nature of post-I13 PvP, let alone trying to do that while being the main target since you won't have enough KB protection as one of the two Kins.
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Fresh start for everyone. Equal compromise. No-one's "turf". It's ideal.