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Originally Posted by Covenant_NA
Hey does anyone have any opinions about a good primary to go with Willpower? I know SS is the best choice but I already have a SS brute and I'm kind of tired of rage crashes. I would like something that can farm quickly but I still want good survivability and few weaknesses which is why I think I want /WP as my secondary. The first thing that comes to mind is Elec but I'm not sure if I like the lack of single target dps. I was wondering if FM or SM had enough aoe to be good at farming, at least at higher levels.
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BrandX makes a good point. Gloom covers any ST deficit in ELM. Fire Melee isn't half bad, either. FSC does a truck load of damage. Fire/WP/Soul would definitely be an uncommon choice for farming, but by no means bad. With iPowers such as reactive radial T3, any judgement, and Spiritual/Musculature T3 core you'll be smoking +4s like it's your day job.
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Originally Posted by Covenant_NA
Hey does anyone have any opinions about a good primary to go with Willpower? I know SS is the best choice but I already have a SS brute and I'm kind of tired of rage crashes. I would like something that can farm quickly but I still want good survivability and few weaknesses which is why I think I want /WP as my secondary. The first thing that comes to mind is Elec but I'm not sure if I like the lack of single target dps. I was wondering if FM or SM had enough aoe to be good at farming, at least at higher levels.
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Choose if you want to farm or want to do regular content.
The two are completely different.
You don't need survivability if you are farming, you need offense and more offense.
Maybe you should try Dark Armor. It's amazingly survivable when properly built and adds some damage with the damage aura.
Don't try to build a WP with the intention of farming. If you want to farm always go /fire.
You are obviously trying to build some kind of jack of all trades/hybrid that can farm as well as do regular content. A hybrid will suck at both.
My suggestion is to make a farmer, it will take a day to get him out of Praetoria and another day for him to aoe grind himself to 50. Then make a /WP, have some random that wants a level 50 level pact that /WP and use your farmer to grind him to 50 for another days work.
With 3 days work (2 if you don't go to Praetoria), you will have a capable farmer and a /WP to play regular contetnt with.
IMO the best primary to go with /WP is easily Dark Melee. DM's AOE sucks so it sure doesn't work with your farming idea but Siphon Life fixes WP's lack of a self heal problem and the -to hit secondary ability synergises well with WP's good defense.
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My suggestion is to make a farmer, it will take a day to get him out of Praetoria and another day for him to aoe grind himself to 50. Then make a /WP, have some random that wants a level 50 level pact that /WP and use your farmer to grind him to 50 for another days work.
With 3 days work (2 if you don't go to Praetoria), you will have a capable farmer and a /WP to play regular contetnt with.
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Wait, what???
I'm just returning to CoH after many years absence. Last I played, leveling to even 40 was a PitA compared to what I was able to do with "the other two" super hero games.
Have they made leveling easier?
Or farming easier?
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Originally Posted by kanniballl
Have they made leveling easier?
Or farming easier? |
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If you've been away for many years, then yes, leveling through non-powerlevel tactics is somewhat quicker. The xp curve is a bit smoother, and debt can now be ignored.|
Originally Posted by kanniballl
Have they made leveling easier?
Or farming easier? |
If you wish to powerlevel yourself, on the other hand, it can be done within a day by using optimized missions in Mission Architect. Solo, if you're a brute with a damage aura, or by another lvl 50 if you're not.
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This is patently false. It is fairly trivial to get a SS/FA Brute to the point where you can play main tank in a team environment, cap tickets in an ambush farm in 2minutes or less, earn 90-120million an hour in inf in the same farms if your killing +3x8 with bosses,run the demon farm for purples and with the addition of a lore pet you can even easily solo AV's in a timely fashion.
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Originally Posted by Giant2005
You are obviously trying to build some kind of jack of all trades/hybrid that can farm as well as do regular content. A hybrid will suck at both.
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Would you mind sharing some of those AE mission IDs or pointing me to a thread or another source where I can find them? I really suck at leveling and would really like to get my first 50 :/
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Originally Posted by Exxar
If you've been away for many years, then yes, leveling through non-powerlevel tactics is somewhat quicker. The xp curve is a bit smoother, and debt can now be ignored.
If you wish to powerlevel yourself, on the other hand, it can be done within a day by using optimized missions in Mission Architect. Solo, if you're a brute with a damage aura, or by another lvl 50 if you're not. |
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Originally Posted by xhris
Would you mind sharing some of those AE mission IDs or pointing me to a thread or another source where I can find them? I really suck at leveling and would really like to get my first 50 :/
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To the OP, clawls might be a good mix of aoe and st, i like my clawls/wp scrap, though i use it mostly for exemping (wp is one of those weird sets that is easy to level but kinda weak at high level content)
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Originally Posted by xhris
Would you mind sharing some of those AE mission IDs or pointing me to a thread or another source where I can find them? I really suck at leveling and would really like to get my first 50 :/
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Although I really wouldn't recommend you going that route for your first 50.
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=263212
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Don't worry my main is a Bots/Trap MM which is lv48 now and I never powerleveled him. I just want to get the last 2 levels and more importantly powerlevel a farmer because I need some cash to IO out my MM.
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Originally Posted by kanniballl
Wait, what???
I'm just returning to CoH after many years absence. Last I played, leveling to even 40 was a PitA compared to what I was able to do with "the other two" super hero games. Have they made leveling easier? Or farming easier? |
1.) Buy & chew 8 reds from vendor.
2.) Buy & chew 4 purples and fill up on more purples.
3.) Enter mission and laugh while you rake in the XP with aura doing all the work.
4.) Pop 4 more purples and a green here and there to taste.
5.) Laugh when you reach high enough level to learn Burn and switch maps.
My Fire/SS went 1-19 in a day, 1-50 within 3 or 4. If I'd really wanted to grind, I probably could have managed 2 days.
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And with Brutes the speed you level is crazy ridiculous because of Fury powering your damage aura. Got a DM/DA (which only has Shadow Maul as a kind of AoE plus the damage aura) to 22 in half the time I got a Fire/Fire Tanker (which has Combustion available to help unlike your Fire/SS) to 12.|
Originally Posted by Midnight_Tempest
My Fire/SS went 1-19 in a day, 1-50 within 3 or 4. If I'd really wanted to grind, I probably could have managed 2 days.
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I tried it with a WS, it's kinda fast after you get Dark Nova (you have 2 AoEs and at level 6 - or level 1 having up to level 6 powers, you outperform any blaster) it's kinda fast, levels 1-6 were slow because I used Orbiting Death (Tanker level damage aura) and Sands of Mu as my 'AoE', and since it's a WS sometimes you get one-shotted even at the def cap.
Oh and these help immensely, especially the WS or other 'frail' toon that can never lose the softcap, I use the macros for making greens, purples and reds: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=125603
As to the OP's question, SM is kinda sucky for farming, FM will be better - you can farm with willpower at high levels with a normal build, chug reds as much as you can, but you won't be as fast as a brute with a damage aura, especially /FA with burn and fiery embrace.
Hey does anyone have any opinions about a good primary to go with Willpower? I know SS is the best choice but I already have a SS brute and I'm kind of tired of rage crashes. I would like something that can farm quickly but I still want good survivability and few weaknesses which is why I think I want /WP as my secondary. The first thing that comes to mind is Elec but I'm not sure if I like the lack of single target dps. I was wondering if FM or SM had enough aoe to be good at farming, at least at higher levels.