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Best Claws secondary and archetype?

Aett_Thorn

By Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2011-06-11 07:41 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion

 

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I been thinking about rolling a claws character, maybe with a elemental ninja concept...
I enjoyed a lot my Night widow claws attacks.
Best archetype and good sinergie archetype?

 

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I'll second the brute. Claws has rocked for a while now but when it got ported to brutes it was turned up to 11.

Ninja? Claws/SR all the way. But like Dechs, I'm biased.

Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Claws/Shields!

Oh wait.

Shortspark: 50 Fire/Fire tanker
Emberblast: 50 Fire/Fire blaster
Jessie Inferno: 50 Fire/SD scrapper
a wizard: 50 Rad/Sonic defender
The Nemesis Plothole: 50 StJ/Reg scrapper

 

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claws/elec won't have to deal with the kb hold of fire and dark and it'll have the damage aura to get buffed by followup.

Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
I'll second the brute. Claws has rocked for a while now but when it got ported to brutes it was turned up to 11.
Is it really that good?

I have a Claws/Invuln Brute - decently IOd (no purps, no PvP IOs) - and it just feels kind of mediocre to me.




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I know its not a top end build, but the performance should feel good with an IO build like this, but it just comes across as mediocre.

 

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What are you comparing it to? Claws/spin is almost broken it's so good as an aoe. Throwing in eviscerate and shockwave, spawns should be falling to pieces for you.

Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
What are you comparing it to? Claws/spin is almost broken it's so good as an aoe. Throwing in eviscerate and shockwave, spawns should be falling to pieces for you.
Out of interest why is better on Brute than a Scrapper and by how much?

L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR

Currently Levelling: Angelic Blade - BS/WP Scrapper | Seeds of Destruction - Plant/Kin Controller

 

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Originally Posted by Psiphon View Post
Out of interest why is better on Brute than a Scrapper and by how much?
It's not really by much in the grand scheme of things. When claws got ported over, the base damage, recharge, end costs were all bumped a bit meaning that the overall DPS was increased.

Looking back at my single target DPS spreadsheets, we're really only talking about a 5-10% increase.

Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Originally Posted by Psiphon View Post
Out of interest why is better on Brute than a Scrapper and by how much?
Because of fury.

Claws is very quick firing, which means you can keep hitting and hitting and hitting. Its low endurance cost as well factors in which means a claws brute can keep moving.

The more fury you build the bigger the damage your claws do. Its decent on a scrapper too, however, as a brute is also nearly as durable as a Tanker, it does make for a VERY offensive character with not that many loopholes to exploit.

 

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Actually, without the base value changes, and due to the nerf fury received not too long ago, scrapper/brute damage over time would be dang near identical.

Be well, people of CoH.

 

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Also brutes got better APP/PPP choices, like Soul, Mu...

 

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Originally Posted by Shortspark View Post
Claws/Stone!

Oh wait.
Fixed.

@Roderick

 

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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
Fixed.
Let me tell ya, Claws/Stone rocks (no pun intended). Too bad I can't bring mine off of Test.

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City of Data shows Scrapper Claws recharging a lot faster than Brute Claws -- particularly Spin. I know brute Eviscerate debuffs defense, and Brute Spin has a higher base damage, but it looks to me like it lacks the recharge advantage of Scrapper Claws.

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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
Let me tell ya, Claws/Stone rocks (no pun intended). Too bad I can't bring mine off of Test.
If we could make it, I'd probably be willing to try Stone Armor again.

@Roderick

 

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Wait, what? Why can't a claws brute choose stone secondary? Problem with claw attachments on Granite?

 

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Originally Posted by Primantiss View Post
Wait, what? Why can't a claws brute choose stone secondary? Problem with claw attachments on Granite?
Yup

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Originally Posted by Primantiss View Post
Wait, what? Why can't a claws brute choose stone secondary? Problem with claw attachments on Granite?
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Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
Yup
Specifically, BAB thought that granite doing the eviscerate flip looked ridiculous.

And yet he never thought eviscerate looked ridiculous on its own like I do....

Be well, people of CoH.

 

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I'm running a claws/SR brute. Just picked up Mu and between spamming ball lightning, cages, spin and shockwave? That's all I have to do. The only ST attacks I really have to use are followup for the +dam and Focus to nail enemies out of arm's reach. Maybe Slash on a boss here and there. It's bloody glorious. And SR/Mu would cover the elemental ninja theme pretty well, I think.

On the other hand Claws/Elec would be pretty boss too. Brute either way though. Spin on Brutes is just OMFG I DID HOW MUCH DAMAGE? AND IT RECHARGES IN OH LOOK IT ALREADY RECHARGED.

 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
Specifically, BAB thought that granite doing the eviscerate flip looked ridiculous.

And yet he never thought eviscerate looked ridiculous on its own like I do....

That would look pretty silly indeed..

Though some of the Dual Blade attacks used while in Granite also look pretty ridiculous as well, but I think Eviscerate would take the cake xD

 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
Specifically, BAB thought that granite doing the eviscerate flip looked ridiculous.

And yet he never thought eviscerate looked ridiculous on its own like I do....
And yet any Granite character can pick up the just as ridiculous Jump Kick from a power pool.

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Until I see something that states to the contrary, going to assume VK is right .

 

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Originally Posted by Primantiss View Post
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
Specifically, BAB thought that granite doing the eviscerate flip looked ridiculous.
That would look pretty silly indeed.
I saved a picture someone posted back when it was being tested:

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