Perma-Dom

Quick question: Is it possible for all combinations of Primary / Secondary sets to achieve perma-dom or is it limited to some but not others?

If it is limited, does anyone have a list of which combinations are possible or if not can anyone tell me if it's possible with mind/fire, mind/nrg and mind/psi.

TIA

Can't say for sure but I would be surprised if there was a combo which couldn't be made perma.

All the one's you have listed would be fine.

Anyone know what the cheapest combo would be to achieve perma dom? I have a plant/psi which is awesome and I reckon you could pimp that out fairly cheap.

Mind is probably the easiest of the primaries, as well as the most "efficient"; i.e., you don't really sacrifice anything while chasing Recharge bonuses, as you're not really muling anything (except maybe Lift for Kinetic Crash).

The powers that have associated sets bearing good +recharge bonuses are control powers and ranged attacks, with some good options also available for AoE and melee sets as well. (even for pets) As every dominator gets control powers in spades, and will have varrying numbers or range/melee/AoE, every dominator will be able to grab enough +recharge bonuses to make their domination permanent.

That said, the expense depends upon the rarity and market value of the +recharge bonus sets that they can use. Since any sets that give +recharge are usually valued by players, the most pricey are the ones that the most archetypes and powersets can use. The least expensive are the ones few can use. So in this case, you're looking for powers with assosciated sets that few sets/AT's can use.

Ranged/AoE/melee options are shared across every possible archetype, especially if you consider pool and ancillary/patron powers. Sleep sets? Fear? Confuse sets? Few archetypes can use this, and even then only a few sets within these archetypes. Holds, immobilizes, stuns and pet sets are a bit more common, especially if you consider the 41-50 pools.

Purple sets offer the best possible +recharge bonuses- which is why mind/ gets off easy, because it has access to the purple sleep and confuse sets that few can use. Fear sets are rarely accessible, even more rarely used. Mind can slot this with ease. This is why mind/ is often stated as one of the cheapest to 'perma' on a dominator. It has rare effects that have potent but often unusable sets that players are generating in their gameplay, but cannot often slot.

basic permadom is relatively easy to acheive if youre willing to spend some inf, no matter what powersets you chose. like someone said earlier mind/energy is pretty easy to do it with, technically you could reach a basic permadom by level 25 if you had the right loot:

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technically permadom: Level 25 Mutation Dominator
Primary Power Set: Mind Control
Secondary Power Set: Energy Assault
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Mesmerize -- CSndmn-Acc/Rchg(A), CSndmn-EndRdx/Sleep(7), CSndmn-Acc/EndRdx(9), CSndmn-Sleep/Rng(9), CSndmn-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(11)
Level 1: Power Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 2: Levitate -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(13), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21)
Level 4: Dominate -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(7), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(21), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(25)
Level 6: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 14: Power Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(15), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19)
Level 16: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Total Domination -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(23), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(23), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(25)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: [Empty]
Level 28: [Empty]
Level 30: [Empty]
Level 32: [Empty]
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Domination
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)

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Permadom I'm pretty sure is available in every powerset combo possible in the archetype. I want to ask this though: What about Double Domi? Is that capable of being made permanent? And if so, is the Double Domi stacked naturally? Also, can every powerset pull it off? I ask this because a fellow player I know plays an Ice/Psi Dominator, that on occasion is capable of 'Double Domination'.

When you refer to 'cost', some set and recharge bonuses are more easily explained in terms of 'time' rather than influence. For instance, with hero/villain alignment merits, you can play through to get the more expensive recipes like basilisk's gaze and Luck of the Gambler-Recharge bonus. The purple sets are truly costly and you can earn them in time but that would take a long, long amount of playing level 50 content.

You can cram enough recharge into some builds to get triple stacked domination for a little bit. Nowadays, the only real benefit is getting a free end. refill more often. My mind/psi runs on 190% total global recharge (120% from IOs and 70% from hasten). I went this route instead of +rech/def because I wanted perma Drain Psyche, which I have. Additionally, the excessive recharges makes all my controls and attacks come up stupidly quick, so the defense really hasn't been needed.

Fun fact: I can take my Dom into RWZ, use my accolade click powers, and run around confusing rikti guardians to get AM. after about 8 AMs stacked I'm at the recharge cap and those accolade powers are recharging in under 10 minutes - I haven't timed it but it is significantly less than its base recharge of 25 minutes.

99% sure that triple stack is a lie. It's just like triple rage, icons are lieing to you.

Domination at the recharge cap recharges in 50 seconds, and domination only lasts 90 seconds. So it's impossible to triple-stack it.

As long as Domination is active that first icon will be there. So you may see three icons, but it's only double stacked.

Should be noted there is a guide to help create Perma-Doms: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=120644

Elec is pretty easy to Permadom, especially with the "cheap" Very Rare Recipes you can throw in. My build has five each of Gravitational Anchor, Coercive Persuasion, and Unbreakable Constraint, which took me shockingly little time to do. As a matter of fact, selling a single Ragnarok recipe I obtained as a drop in a Strike Force paid for all five Coercive Persuasions!

Mind looks easier to softcap than my very fun Elec/Ice Dom, which is why I'm so frustrated that I haven't been able to get into it. Maybe it just isn't shiny enough?

One of the best bang for your buck (for global +rech) sets is Kinetic Crash (Knockback). It's expensive in terms of enh slots (you need the full 6), but it does get you 7.5% AND a -KB for yourself so you can laugh at all the CoT/Scientist earthquakes

The major downside is that not too many folks WANT to enhance KB. Levitate is a good candidate for it, it gets you decent +acc, +rech, endred and +dmg (66% or thereabouts in the late 40s range of IOs). The BIG benefit if you are going for perma-dom on a budget is that it's cheap. Like DIRT cheap. No rare salvage and ALL the recipes can generally be picked up for a song.

Arg