Tough hide..?

Hi. I've been away from the game for quite a while. Now i've returned, hopefully re enthused and certainly impressed with some of the changes that have occurred in my absense.

I love the fact the inherents are now.. inherent. (loving the incarnate system btw...)

Which brings me to my question. I am SS/ Invul. i took all the invul powers except tough hide because I added tough and weave.
On the other side of the coin I added handclap, mostly for concept reasons.
Cept, now playing i realise hand clap is pretty redundant, especially as the closer my foes are the more my "invulnerabiliyy" increases.. Soooo pushing them away seems... odd.

I took hurl, a power that i never took in my previous time here but it's been improved.. or it seems to have anyhow.. So i took that for my primary ranged attack.

Anyhow, If i drop handclap and add something is there any real benefit to adding tough hide (which my logic tells me to do) or add maybe laser vision for another ranged attack?

Does tough hide increase my imperviousnes or defence by any significant degree?

Yes, it gives as much defense as weave, and gives you some resistance against defence debuffs.

I wouldn't skip it.

I would take Hand Clap if it just did knockdown like Foot Stomp, or did disorient, since it's another AoE attack that can build more aggro. However as it is now, I will never take it.

Or better still if it was actually a damaging attack without any other side effects, maybe minor or moderate damage.

But knockback? No. There is no situation where I would want knockback. If you say there is then you are just a Hand Clap fanboi who is making up desperate stories to vainly try to justify this useless power.

But yeah, take Tough Hide. It's an auto power that doesn't use end.

Same with Hurl, which also does knockback. I would rather go with Energy Mastery and get Laser Eye Beams as that does -def and is much quicker animation wise.

Um, Tough Hide has Not been changed in the revamps of Invulnerability, so It's as super as it ever was. However, Unyielding was changed - it no longer debuffs your Defense.

Be Well!
Fireheart

Yeah, Unyeilding's -5% was eliminated during the recent Invuln rebuild, however, that 5% was taken from Invinc, so it's a wash. (However, since you get Uny at Level 8 and Invinc at level 18, that extra 5% during those levels makes a huge difference.)

As to the statement that TH is just as good as Weave, Weave provides +Def to All (including positional), TH provides +Def to all but Psionics (not including positional). But TH more than makes up for that by being auto and endurance free.

If you were anything but Invulnerability or Willpower, Hand Clap could well come in handy (pardon the pun) at some point.

I used it on my Tanker in the early goings it was useful to buy some breathing room to pop in some inspirations if my health was wearing down, but once I got footstomp, I just respec'd handclap away.

5% base defense with half of your ddr on a PASSIVE!!!!!
Yeah take it

Lionsbane you are not soft capped. Laser Beam Eyes is not something I'd recommend to anyone who isn't making a Superman concept. Handclap is alright if you know how to use it and when to use it. I'd of been tempted to get it when I respec my Invuln to have inherent fitness just to mess things up for people who seem to prefer mobs spread all over the shop because they annoy me. A tankers place is in the thick groups. If you are beating a single npc up whilst there are several mobs close by beating on a controller or not in the ambushes first you are doing something wrong. Support characters support best when they aren't having to put their own survivability first so handclap would be redundant most of the time anyway. I would get tough hide.