Server Merge (not list merge)

What the ****?

Oh Gawd, that is just pure gold Hyper. Pure Gold!

Thank you for the time...

Unfortunately I foresee more people departing then arriving but that maybe me being paranoid.
Defiant is pretty much an unknown for most people as it isn't either a pvp or rp server and we all pretty much enjoy doing the same thing which includes tf'ing and good constructive social banter, so as far as new people coming to us I'm hoping it's not just AE farmers, Market people that think it's clever to burn inf to undermine SG's that have been running for the past 6+ years, and any other who have alienated themselves from their home server due to being a prat.

I think there might be an initial drop in the population as you suspect as EU players venture forth into a new world of server freedom but there will also be NA players looking for new communities to explore and in a couple of months everything will stabilize.

I just hope they add a note on the server list after the non english speaking servers to let new players know which servers speak French and German.

Vigilance - (French Speaking)
Zukunft - (German Speaking)

I know it won't stop the occasional moron who will come here and complain that he's pissed that he has to buy a server transfer and he should get one for free but with the nonenglish servers identified on the selection screen we can laugh derisively and tell them they are dumb***** and that they should learn to read.

Emphasis mine. If they can make the the current hardware do more, and aren't expecting a sudden influx of new players, they can reduce the size of the server farms without impacting performance. Thus reducing their overheads.

Boring I know. Just putting it out there.

I don't understand what you're talking about here.

*snort*

I've been hearing that since... oh, issue 3 at least.

Hasn't been right yet.

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By far the most likely explanation. I do like the F2P theory, I hadn't thought of that, but NCSoft as a company does not understand F2P or how to do it correctly. Although they are capable of learning, and I do think F2P in this game is only a matter of time (the industry as a whole is moving in that direction, like it or not), but that's just my opinion. The above explanation is most likely correct.

Any SG that prides itself on its Prestige generation is a bad SG that deserves to be embarrassed. More power to the 88s!

Must be an EU thing because I have no idea what he means either.

That is your opinion, but any SG that has accrued prestige and been running for over 6 years and earned no.1 spot deserves it in my book, someone who can earn and burn inf in less than a month and take no.1 spot is meh to me at the best.

Years ago I knew a boy at school that brought a sticker book, he was quite wealthy and managed to complete the book in a day, he also thought he was god because he had completed the sticker book 1st and the only reason he did was cos of his wealth. You know the best thing though all the other people who also brought the book had great fun taking there time and swapping stickers with one another, whilst Mr wealthy stood and looked on bored out of his tree.

I don't belong to an SG, I have my own personal one that isn't even in the top 100 SG's and I don't consider it to be an SG, just my own personal space.
But I do know people in the top SG's on my server, they host events and include me in TF's everynow and then, these benefit me.

As far as inf sinks go it dosen't benefit me in the slightest so don't include everyone in your list for who they benefit.

Well, here is your problem.

Prestige isn't a measure of how good a SG is.

It's a measure of the prestige generated. That's it.

Who created that?

Cos when I go Atlas or Port Oakes and click on SG guy, the tab, show list top 100 sg/vg and the SG with the no.1 next to it normally means that it's no.1.
And thats what I have to go by as there is no other way of showing the No.1 SG.

Can you rephrase the question?

It shows you it is number 1 at generating prestige, nothing more.

Sure I can, If I started playing the game as of today and I wanted to join the best SG, the only way in game to tell who that it is, is to go to the SG guy in Atlas or Port O and bring up the top 100 SG's. If I wanted to join the best I would automatically join the No.1.
Any otherway of supposidly joining the best SG is just hearsay with no hard facts.

Well, that would only show you were new and didn't know what prestige is.

With Cryptic and now Paragon Studios' past performance on performance, that'd worry me much, much more than a server merge if it were true.

Right, so how do you determine who the no.1 SG is if you don't include prestige?

I don't really see how having more prestige makes an SG the "best". I mean, yes, it means they probably have a fully stocked base, but it really doesn't take THAT much prestige to get there. All the groups on the top 100 probably have that. And beyond that point, Prestige is just a silly, meaningless number. Because all it's good for is buying stuff in the base.

I also find that the SGs that top the lists tend to be really farm-heavy (which explains how they get so much Prestige), which is okay if you're into farming, but I REALLY wouldn't recommend it to anyone new. OR, they might have strict rules about prestige earning, and have it so you MUST earn x amount of prestige per week/month/whatever, or you're out of the group. There are a few groups like that, and yeah, they mainly do it so they can keep a high spot and advertise themselves as a top SG.

I would not recommend EITHER of those types of groups to a new player, and in fact my suggestion would probably be to stay AWAY from the SGs near the top of the list. Also to avoid SGs that advertise in Atlas Broadcast.


Of course, a good SG COULD be at or near the top of the list... but that would be in spite of the amount of prestige earned, not because of it.

I don't think you can.

Best is a really personal judgement.

/this.

Prestige is worthless as a measure of a "number one SG," unless you want to see who... has the most prestige. Which tells you absolutely nothing about the SG or the people in it. I could - if I cared to screw with the market enough - start a new account, make a single person SG, do exactly what the Crazy 88s do and get a commanding "lead" over the "#2" SG - then cancel that account and still be #1 for some amount of time.

What's it mean? Nothing. It doesn't tell you how active the SG is. It doesn't tell you if they're involved with events, raids, PVP, RP, focused like the various RO SGs are, themed like the Legion of Catgirls or what.

YOU have to go and find the people, ask around, and find what the "best" SG for what YOU want is. They may be the #1 prestige-ranked SG.... or #87359. But for you, they'd still be "the best."

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You can believe whatever you want it doesn't change the fact that inf sinks benefit everyone. The only way they stop benefitting you is if you cancel your sub.

You forgot paying rent but since rent is so low it's laughable to be concerned about it.

I'm surprised he isn't foaming at the mouth about Praetorian characters and how the first SG they join gets a 100,000 prestige bonus.

Damn Praetorians are screwing up the prestige ranks by joining SG's! Rabble Rabble Rabble!

Dey took ar jobs!