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Catgirls: one step closer....

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By 2short2care,
Posted on: 2011-05-06 08:51 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture

 

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I'm not much of a furrie fan or anything, but I have to admit, this Technology is pretty amazing & has alot of applications.
I'm positive if they market the ears as a toy in the US, they will make a lot of money. Any distributer that helps them do so will make a mint as well.

 

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That's kind of pointless, but still kind of cool and interesting, if only because of the technology its made from.
The real beef I have with it is that if you're relaxed a lot, the ears end up always drooping, and that's not how cat ears function in Real Life or in Anime, and the overall lack of range of emotions displayable.

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Agreed. I'd also note that if it works I could imagine some potential usages in the medical field (potentially as a communication tool for people with disabilities) so making it as an entertainment device may provide the funding for other useful applications.

Plus they are cool.
Pretty much all of this. And hey, anything that gets us one step closer to a true mind/machine interface.

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These ears, if marketed right, could be the next biggest thing since the healy.

 

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I'm not much of a furrie fan or anything, but I have to admit, this Technology is pretty amazing & has alot of applications.
When I initially ran across it (on a neuroscience blog's "fun post") I was reminded just how long this sort of 'biofeedback" tech has been around. I remember when a company had a series of games for the Commodor 64 that used a headband to "read your brainwaves" to play at a cost of several hundred bucks for the "controller" and the software. It's really surprising that it's taken at least 20+ years to see many commercial applications of that same tech like the Star Wars Force game and these ears.

 

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These ears, if marketed right, could be the next biggest thing since the healy.
And the next market for them will be 30 year old men.

 

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So, clearly I have something wrong with me, when one of my first thoughts is:

"Ears down = relaxed? But in the cat world ears down = scared/angry/upset."

 

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There is a longer video (9 minutes) showing off the prototype at some show with several people, male, female, young and old, trying it.

Now we need to link this mind control tech with those little RC copters that can have laser battles or the one with the on board video/still camera.

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While this particular application is rather pointless (outside of entertainment and, of course, profit for the company making them,) I *am* with those hoping it'll push tech along for other medical uses.

Honestly, first thing that came to mind *medically,* if it would work with this sort of band, is picking up that a seizure is imminent. (Comes with having to take care of someone and dealing with that for a while, trying to catch her "stare" that said it was starting.)

 

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Stuff like this would also be very useful for quadriplegics. They could eventually have tech that could steer their wheelchairs around without having to blow into a straw, or they could have a cybernetic hand and could flip the bird at people that piss them off


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I like this innovative technology. Now we know that they can create more good technology for health, medical purpose and personal likes too. A lot of good things can be done from this technology. Some people will like it, others won't. There is no problem with that.

 

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I like this innovative technology. Now we know that they can create more good technology for health, medical purpose and personal likes too. A lot of good things can be done from this technology. Some people will like it, others won't. There is no problem with that.
Oh there's no doubt the technology will be useful.
It's just a huge waste to use it on something that isn't more beneficial. There's tons of medical conditions this could help, even in the slightest.

If the money made by selling this goes to help fund greater research into the same kinds of stuff, then by all means, go for it.
If this is all we'll see if it, though, then that's pretty dumb.

 

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Oh there's no doubt the technology will be useful.
It's just a huge waste to use it on something that isn't more beneficial. There's tons of medical conditions this could help, even in the slightest.

If the money made by selling this goes to help fund greater research into the same kinds of stuff, then by all means, go for it.
If this is all we'll see if it, though, then that's pretty dumb.
I understand your point of view YippeeGo and i know the side that you care for. I totally support you that the money goes to help the funding of greater research for helping with medical conditions. I hope it does that.

As a person who always has her own personal style/fashion statement, i mentioned that since some people called it that way, i support to the people who want it because of that. No problem if this goes for greater good for health and for happiness.

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Now the main focus is on the medical aspect which i hope it goes very far. We really need that.

 

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I'm actually considering supporting this endeavor by buying the product. I believe it'd be more proactive to show the industry there's interest in this type of technology with money. Yeah, you could donate, but who knows where that'll really go to.

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Think they could get 'em out before Halloween?
I hope so. Some people will love to have them for Halloween, others for personal use. In my opinion, i see them for personal use i hope they make them in a wide variety of colors.

 

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I'm actually considering supporting this endeavor by buying the product. I believe it'd be more proactive to show the industry there's interest in this type of technology with money. Yeah, you could donate, but who knows where that'll really go to.

Think they could get 'em out before Halloween?
There's probably bound to be medical interest already in these, I'm sure there's someplace which will offer a pretty penny for the technology.

As for the date of release, I'm really not too sure. They probably will still do some testing on it, and the headband itself looks pretty bad in terms of quality. If they're serious about this, they'll probably want to make it out of a higher quality fabric. I'm pretty sure these will come with a hefty price tag, so I'm sure they could spare the expenses to use a nicer material, or make it look less like you're a human furby.

 

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There's probably bound to be medical interest already in these, I'm sure there's someplace which will offer a pretty penny for the technology.

As for the date of release, I'm really not too sure. They probably will still do some testing on it, and the headband itself looks pretty bad in terms of quality. If they're serious about this, they'll probably want to make it out of a higher quality fabric. I'm pretty sure these will come with a hefty price tag, so I'm sure they could spare the expenses to use a nicer material, or make it look less like you're a human furby.
After taking more time to see the nine minutes duration video, if they go for commercial purpose, they will not make them of the best quality. Which yes it can save more money, but sometimes is not the best option for good quality, sadly. I hope they just use nicer material, that they do everything good and not a quick release for money.

I support the idea of them taking their time to give all of there customers a very good quality product.

 

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I'm just waiting until they sell enough to reach a critical mass, and suddenly they switch from being brain controlled to controlling brains.




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It's essentially the same tech that's in the Star Wars Force Trainer toy from Uncle Milton, just repurposed to control the ears instead of a fan. The tech has been around for quite a while now, I think the June/July 1988 issue of Byte Magazine's Circuit Cellar had the blueprints for a cheap EEG monitor. The biggest problem back then with the CPU horsepower to do an FFT in BASIC. Here it is from one of the compilation volumes scanned into Google Books.

Now 20+ years have passed and I imagine this can be done in one or two off the shelf chips the size of your pinky nail (the chip package size, not the silicon) with all the analysis done entirely on the internal CPU.

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So, clearly I have something wrong with me, when one of my first thoughts is:

"Ears down = relaxed? But in the cat world ears down = scared/angry/upset."

Depends on which "down" you are talking. Folded back and down? Ya, that's scared/mad/whatever.

Limp and down but still facing front? For my cats, that's pretty relaxed.

Haven't actually watched the video so dunno if they are talking the back and down or the limp & front facing.


 

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Depends on which "down" you are talking. Folded back and down? Ya, that's scared/mad/whatever.

Limp and down but still facing front? For my cats, that's pretty relaxed.

Haven't actually watched the video so dunno if they are talking the back and down or the limp & front facing.
Looks like all they do is rotate from a front/down position to an upright one. No evidence of going back. And they didn't seem to have much in between except a "twitch," so I'm not sure just how sensitive this is to changes. Someone probably could with practice, if the motor controlling it is allowed to, stop in an in between position.

Not sure if that's a motor or sensor limitation. Either - for any use - would probably be doable with more money thrown at it.