Huh... So now what do I do?


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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Personally I think you should wander from zone to zone joining random teams and exempting down with them. Lots of fun to be had there.

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You have as much fun teamed or solo. What if you almost never teamed? Do you think the soloing would still be as fun to you without the regular teaming interludes? On that same character that you mostly soloed all the way to 50? The one who has already soloed almost all (or maybe even all) the story contacts? Still having fun solo now? Of course, you cannot answer that question, because you enjoy teaming too.
I probably solo 80% of the time and have been here for not quite 4 years. Pretty sure I have soloed most if not all of the content by now. Blue side that is.

And yes I do still have fun soloing.

I would like to point out before someone gives me the standard 'Well why are you playing an MMO then if you solo' rant that I spend my time yapping with friends as I solo.


Enjoy your day please.

 

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I spend my time yapping with friends as I solo.
I tried telling people that, but they never listened.


 

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I tried telling people that, but they never listened.
This surprises me, as well. I spend most of my time in-game over global chat with someone two servers away, yet because I'm not actually on the same team with them, I get called anti-social. But that's neither here nor there.

So... When's that Vanguard pack coming out?


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I would like to point out before someone gives me the standard 'Well why are you playing an MMO then if you solo' rant that I spend my time yapping with friends as I solo.
I'm good for this. I do team a good bit but a lot of times I want to pursue my own selfish goals and just chatter with friends in globals while I do it.


 

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I'm good for this. I do team a good bit but a lot of times I want to pursue my own selfish goals and just chatter with friends in globals while I do it.
Totally me.

The thread was an interesting read, because it did make me think about why I like playing at 50. I have 10 level 50 characters, and they get a lot of playtime. How/what do I do?

I solo a lot, but I also team for TFs and Trials. I basically solo characters to 50, and I solo them for stuff like tips, earning cash, some grindy badges, etc. I team on TFs or for badges that need/want a team to get. I IO out my characters significantly, and I need Merits of various sorts to do that efficiently. And I do want the Incarnate shinies, even if I am not enamored of the system that grants them or the currently limited content where that system is in effect. (I do like the Trials, I just want more stuff, either like them or soloable. I hear both are coming.)

So basically, I do a little bit of everything, except for PvP. That keeps me from radical burnout on any one thing, and helps keep me playing what I enjoy - max access to the true power of a fully armed and operational batt..er level 50.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Serious question here. I like the character, I want to play him, but I can't bring myself to sinking down what will end up being an entire day fixing his sorry *** if all I have to look forward is "repeatable content." Because beyond that, I'm out of ideas, and it seriously sucks. I like this character.
You can reinforce him as a villain with the tip missions.
Did you do all the unlockable characters? Television is a blast.
Go through Ouroborous and do the arcs you skipped.
Use AE. This is exactly what it is intended for.

This is a MMO. Half of that is running stuff you already did with a group of friends. That's where the fun lies. If you're not into socialising, you're going to run out of things to do at a certain point, that's just how it is.


@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.

 

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You can reinforce him as a villain with the tip missions.
Did you do all the unlockable characters? Television is a blast.
Go through Ouroborous and do the arcs you skipped.
Use AE. This is exactly what it is intended for.

This is a MMO. Half of that is running stuff you already did with a group of friends. That's where the fun lies. If you're not into socialising, you're going to run out of things to do at a certain point, that's just how it is.
Sam does socialize. He said in this thread that he chats with friends while playing missions solo. Chatting with someone is being social. One does not have to be on a team with someone to interact with them. I help out folks asking questions in the Help channel all the time. Am I being anti-social because I'm not grouped with them? Nope.


 

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Sam does socialize. He said in this thread that he chats with friends while playing missions solo. Chatting with someone is being social. One does not have to be on a team with someone to interact with them. I help out folks asking questions in the Help channel all the time. Am I being anti-social because I'm not grouped with them? Nope.
Ok, socializing was the wrong word to use, but the point still stands.

Edit: And for some reason when I my made my earlier post, only a handfull of other posts showed up. So I missed the 50 something other posts of this discussion.

Zombie Man's post sums it up nicely though.


@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.

 

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Zombie Man's post sums it up nicely though.
Except for the fact that I did accept several of the suggestions given to me, but who's counting, right?

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My eventual solution was to give the game time to add something else new for a level 50 to do, and when that happens, to mix whatever gets added with Ouro replays of 45-50 content and maybe some Architect, plus at least one round of Villain tips. But all of that will have to wait.


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Nice Troll post.


 

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Nice Troll post.
Congratulating yourself seems like an odd choice to me.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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Congratulating yourself seems like an odd choice to me.
But it's a solo activity - you should support it


@Golden Girl

City of Heroes comics and artwork

 

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Actually, I've done some thinking about exactly what it is that's burning me out, and I'm starting to spot a few telltale signs. I took a very SMALL break away from City of Heroes, playing "other games" and watching 1989's Leviathan (of all things), as well as trying and failing to be engaged by the Darker Than Black anime (intentionally depressing stories are not interesting), and which seems to have given me a broader view of fiction and entertainment in general, or at least I think so. The result?

I simply seem to have made some characters that I genuinely do not enjoy playing. Dark Melee characters seem to be at the forefront of this, not because it's a bad set (far from it), but because it really doesn't have anything that excites me. It's simple punches with black smoke around them that just happen to deal a lot of damage.

That's in contrast to, say, my literal cow girl who constitutes a tall, heavy-built fighter swinging around a war mace as long as most people are tall and with a spiked ball bigger than most people are wide at the shoulders. I don't even need a story behind this, it's just COOL (to me, at least). I did some writing for her, and I'm just about to send her through Praetoria and into the career of a big, strong hero. Just the thought of seeing her fight gets me motivated to play her.

In the same vein, I have something even more relevant to the question at hand: "So now what." Brutticus - the character I entered into that contest, is one of my favourite 50s, and I've actually had multiple urges to just log her in and run paper missions if I had to. I've held off on that, since there are as of yet no Judgement powers that fit her in a way which makes me excited to work for them, but the enthusiasm is there.

I think the solution to burnout is to try and stick to the characters I like and level them up in big steps while doing only brief stints with those I don't and crawling them up to 50 a little at a time.

I'm actually just about to log into City of Heroes now, and I'm enthusiastic about it, even though I'm about to repeat the Praetorian Warden arc for, like, the fifth time. I can quote the contact dialogue at this point, but the character should be worth it.


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"Burnout."
In the inimitable words of wisdom from Movie lore,
"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

All due respect, but I believe the cure for burnout will likely not be "to try and stick to the characters I like and level them up..."

If you are truly burnt out (which I agree as a diagnosis based on the thread so far), I think a significant break will help a lot. It's very hard to get perspective from inside the thing you are trying to get ... perspective... on. (terrible sentence.)

The problem seems to be that your expectations are heightened, and it will take a lot to meet them - high standards are great, but when you expect too much, a disappointment can seem even larger without context.

I hope you get through the difficult phase, but I fear that intensfying play, even with a character you love, might do more harm than good at this point. A 'break' is really a 2-week to 1 month idea at minimum, imo, totally away from the game. The fact that you listed watching one movie in your qualifications for 'taking a break' - even a 'SMALL' break - gives me the impression that your idea of taking a break is different than that of most people.


Arc #6015 - Coming Unglued

"A good n00b-sauce is based on a good n00b-roux." - The Masque

 

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Trust me, I didn't spend seven years playing this game without having ways to deal with burnout Having a concrete explanation on what the primary cause for it is (sorry, but it IS Dark Melee) gives me the opportunity to look for other things to do which might inspire me, and I have the distinct feeling that I have something.

The thing is, I haven't played City of Heroes for the amazing gameplay in probably five years now. It's always been about the cool characters for me. The kind of characters I look at and think "I cannot believe I'm actually playing this in a real game!" I've had that quite a few times, and it's just a question of looking for that sense again. Knowing what I'm looking for makes finding it substantially easier.

I could take a large break, but the truth of the matter is I don't really have much else to do for entertainment, not something which could last me a month, anyway. The mods will probably frown at me for saying this, but I managed to play through Half-Life 2, then Episode One, then Episode Two, then Portal 2 about four times, then the original Portal about twice, all within the span of give or take four days. And that's really pretty much the extent of all the good games that I have available to me right now. Buying new ones every month is out of the question. Too expensive, too crappy, and the ones that I already own I can run through beginning to end quite easily.

I'll get this sorted out


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Aaand... I was right. The right character makes all the difference in the world. The game's is once more so much fun that I have trouble tearing myself away from it. And I owe it all to a few simple things:

*A cow head
*A large mace
*Clobber

In fact, I've put together a neat compilation of all three factors in play:



I wanted to watch Virus tonight, but at the rate this is going, I might overshoot my actual bedtime, let alone leaving time for a movie. It's almost 3 AM right now, so I still have time... If I can resist running another mission or two. But Clobber makes such a nice, alluring sound and takes things down with such fervour I may fail to resist its siren's song. Man, I made SUCH a huge mistake not playing my Mace/Shield Brute more often. He was a lot of fun!

If anyone ever wondered why I kept bugging BABs about bigger weapons, this is the reason: They make me giddy with anticipation of the next mission, and then the next one after that Also, the sound effects guys of old deserve much praise, too, for picking such a satisfying sound to most of those powers. Spot on!

And, yeah... I intend to let this thread die now. I built up a list of things to do when next I play my 50s (and I will, eventually) and I found a pretty good way to beat burnout. Just in time, too, since I'm going back to work the day after tomorrow, and I won't have the opportunity to experiment with my entertainment time. So I'd like to thank (most of) you for giving me a hand in figuring this out. All's well that ends well, after all.


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