I'm pretty sure when it crits when used out of Hide it should still recharge BU. Going BU -> AS -> Placate -> CS should recharge BU, yes.
You don't get a critical message above the mob when CS crits, at least I don't get one on my KM Scrapper, but you can see PS instantly recharge if you're paying attention.
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Last I checked, it did not auto-crit out of hide. I believe it has a 20% chance to crit at all times.
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BU will only recharge if CS crits, which is a constant 20% chance. Placate and Hide will not give CS a 100% crit.|
Originally Posted by Largo
My lvl 32 Kinetic Melee/Regen stalker just hit 32 today. I took Concentrated Strike as my next power choice. In the description of the power, it says its supposed to instantly recharge the Build Up power, instead of giving criticals.
Does that mean, it only recharges the BU power when I attack using CS from the hidden state? Because when I use it in an attack chain, it does nothing to instantly recharge the BU power. So should I be going BU, AS, placate, CS, then BU will be instantly ready? So far I have not seen BU instantly recharged ever. Or is that some text that should have been removed but wasn't? |
You're better off going, BU - AS - Placate - Another Attack - CS
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Better check the notes on the new patch. Unless I read it wrong, this will now rech build up out of hide. This is going to be fun. I just started one up.
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Better check the notes on the new patch. Unless I read it wrong, this will now rech build up out of hide. This is going to be fun. I just started one up.
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Did they fix the 100% crit on Burst from Hide?
I mean, this is what it says: Stalker Kinetic Melee \ Concentrated Strike now will automatically refresh Build Up as its critical effect when used from the Hidden state. In additional a Build Up message will be displayed over the player when this effect is triggered.
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I mean, this is what it says: Stalker Kinetic Melee \ Concentrated Strike now will automatically refresh Build Up as its critical effect when used from the Hidden state. In additional a Build Up message will be displayed over the player when this effect is triggered.
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I can confirm this, just logged into my Kin/Dark Stalker and Build up now refreshes every single time Concentrated Strike is used while Hidden. I don't know the exact numbers for sure, but CS seems to have a decent chance of refreshing BU when used in a regular attack chain, and not Hidden, as well. Also, the 100% crit rate from Burst while hidden is still in effect, so I assume this is how the Devs intended both powers to orginally be.
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BU will only recharge if CS crits, which is a constant 20% chance. Placate and Hide will not give CS a 100% crit.
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I can confirm this, just logged into my Kin/Dark Stalker and Build up now refreshes every single time Concentrated Strike is used while Hidden. I don't know the exact numbers for sure, but CS seems to have a decent chance of refreshing BU when used in a regular attack chain, and not Hidden, as well. Also, the 100% crit rate from Burst while hidden is still in effect, so I assume this is how the Devs intended both powers to orginally be.
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Holy ****! You serious? I can't imagine Kinetic needs more buff?
PS: I just read the patch note and looks like it it legit. Damn. What does Energy Melee get that? Total Focus only critical a portion... lol
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Now it's (From Hide) BU -> CS -> Placate -> BU -> AS?
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Now it's (From Hide) BU -> CS -> Placate -> BU -> AS?
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A word of caution, though - it's annoying unless your defense is high (I would also note that EA with only SOs isn't "high") when there's more than just a boss there since you can only Placate one thing. My KM/EA would get hit too often on just SOs for me to decide the extra BU on AS was worthwhile, and I just went back to leading with BU->AS or BU->Burst, and just using CS to recharge it faster.
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I took out my 50 Kin/Dark for two BAF runs to test Concentrated Strike.
It is a very nice buff especially that Build Up red text.
During long fight, I do BU + CS and then Body, Smashing and then use Placate + CS to get another Build Up and then do other attacks again. It's funny when you see double Build Up text. I didn't test but I doubt we get double Build Up buffs.
This makes me want to drop one slot from Build Up. Between hidden, placate and natural critical, I think 3-slotted Build Up is over kill. I can save one or even two slots somewhere else.
Now Kinetic Melee doesn't seem to do bad damage at all. You just need to click Build Up frequently which takes a bit time to get used to since I am used to "saving it" when I feel the time is right. Now I just press Build Up whenever it's up because I know I get another one with critical.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Now it's (From Hide) BU -> CS -> Placate -> BU -> AS?
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I've used BU + CS + Body, Smashing, Focused/Body, and then BU + Body/Smashing/Focused + Placate + CS and then another BU + Body/Smashing/Focused. I use this during trial because the ambushes shoot "fire dot" on the ground sometimes that interrupts my AS and I have no patience for AS.
I feel Focused Burst hurts my dps but it's a long range and I really don't want to drop it for Quick Strike.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
Yes, you can get Double Build up buffs. With my kin/nin, its BU, CS, placate, AS on bosses. Also, it has the enhanced crit chance to recharge Buildup while out of hide. Burst still crits 100% out of hide.
I don't feel the need to add slots to Build Up for recharge on my KM Stalker. The chance for BU proc, tho...
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Oh yeah... I wonder if two Build Ups has 2x the chance to trigger the proc? That would be awesome.
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I don't feel the need to add slots to Build Up for recharge on my KM Stalker. The chance for BU proc, tho...
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What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
My lvl 32 Kinetic Melee/Regen stalker just hit 32 today. I took Concentrated Strike as my next power choice. In the description of the power, it says its supposed to instantly recharge the Build Up power, instead of giving criticals.
Does that mean, it only recharges the BU power when I attack using CS from the hidden state?
Because when I use it in an attack chain, it does nothing to instantly recharge the BU power.
So should I be going BU, AS, placate, CS, then BU will be instantly ready?
So far I have not seen BU instantly recharged ever.
Or is that some text that should have been removed but wasn't?
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