Judgement powers bugged and Overpowered


 

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Judgement powers bugged and overpowered for PvP. This is the damage that was done with Ion. It takes the fun out of PvP. I seen this damage log up to 4986 on a single chain attack. Jugement powers should be nerfed for PvP.

Redexe blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 451.09 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 1 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1016.56 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 1 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 153.31 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 1 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 153.31 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 1 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 153.31 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 1 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 153.31 points of energy damage!
Your henchmen protect you from 613.27 damage.
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 1 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 306.62 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 1 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1042.37 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 2 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1088.02 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 2 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1088.02 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 2 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1088.02 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 2 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1088.02 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 2 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1088.02 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 2 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1088.02 points of energy damage!
Ion Core Final Judgement Jump 2 blasts you with their Ion Core Final Judgement for 1088.02 points of energy damage!


 

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ion is bugged in general right now, so its overpowered in everything

the other judgements are fine though


 

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That explains one possible reason I am getting uncommon drops for fifteen hours gaminy yesterday. I am running a Tank running Void judgement, competeing with Widows running a insane damage Ion. I was on a League last night where a widow got 3 very rares in a row. I got uncommons throughout 15 hours gaming, with various commons, and once a table with just 10 threads.....

Yeah for participation!


 

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So how long before this one gets deleted??
Perhaps since PvP is mentioned, no one will notice....


 

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I disagree with the idea that non-bugged Judgment is fine. It is horrendously overpowered from my point of view.

There's no way I am stepping foot in a PvP zone with my MM.


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It's going to be fixed. People will still complain. All is right in the world.


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Judgement powers do not need to be nerfed. One judgement power needs to be fixed.


 

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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
Judgement powers do not need to be nerfed.
So your opinion is that they (Non Ion) are balanced in PvP? How should a Mastermind deal with these Anti-pet powers? I'm genuinely curious as I am at a loss about how to deal with an attack that can wipeout all but my tier 3 pet with one use.

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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
One judgement power needs to be fixed.
Agreed, and they need to deal with this now as every day they wait the amount of people getting used to it increases leading to more negativity when it does get fixed.


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Originally Posted by Computer View Post
So your opinion is that they (Non Ion) are balanced in PvP? How should a Mastermind deal with these Anti-pet powers? I'm genuinely curious as I am at a loss about how to deal with an attack that can wipeout all but my tier 3 pet with one use.


Agreed, and they need to deal with this now as every day they wait the amount of people getting used to it increases leading to more negativity when it does get fixed.
PVP?

Balance?



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From your (completely true) post, I am assuming you were originally talking about PvE.

Then I say carry on, though be careful as these threads seem to disappear fast these days.

Another translation that I didn't think you meant was more of a 'Its PvP, it doesn't need to be balanced just leave it!' standpoint against which I'd argue.


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Originally Posted by Computer View Post
So your opinion is that they (Non Ion) are balanced in PvP? How should a Mastermind deal with these Anti-pet powers? I'm genuinely curious as I am at a loss about how to deal with an attack that can wipeout all but my tier 3 pet with one use.

Perhaps the same way you deal with a footstomp followed by fireball from a brute with rage and around 25% fury? That does around the same damage and can be done much more frequently than 90 seconds. There are plenty of other combos that can do similar damage as well.

Really there are much bigger balance issues in pvp since the devs decided to "balance" things. Considering they really have not touched pvp in 7 issues after they totally broke everything. The last changes that were made proved that the devs really don't care if one AT or primary or secondary is vastly superior to others so I would not look for balance any time soon.


 

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As long as you're asking about PVP balance, have you asked or tested Clarion vs Doms and Trollers in PVP? Just curious?


 

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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
Perhaps the same way you deal with a footstomp followed by fireball from a brute with rage and around 25% fury?
The reason why I believe that isn't a good comparison is because between attacks there are a lot of things that can happen, one of which is how I respond to that situation. I heal.

All Judgement takes is one click and, if in a bad position, five of my six pets are vaporized. To make matters worse the devs still haven't fixed the AI bug so I can't keep my pets from bunching up into melee range with the target.

(And a Brute with 25% Fury? Psh, Yeah right!)

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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
Really there are much bigger balance issues in pvp since the devs decided to "balance" things.
Bigger? From the standpoint of intensity of the issue I think that point is arguable, but not worth arguing as it will come down to opinions. From the standpoint of coverage of the issue, I absolutely agree.

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Considering they really have not touched pvp in 7 issues after they totally broke everything. The last changes that were made proved that the devs really don't care if one AT or primary or secondary is vastly superior to others so I would not look for balance any time soon.
Even though you are 100% accurate, that doesn't mean I can't gripe about it. As I said in one of the other topics, "How will the devs know what to ignore if we don't tell them about it?!"


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(And a Brute with 25% Fury? Psh, Yeah right!)
You're right.

/pow_exec_name Frenzy

That should have been 100%.


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