Powerset Proliferation
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Amy_Amp,
Posted on: 2011-04-10 09:08 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
Soon-ish©
In all seriousness, I wouldn't expect any more Power Prolif. before 2012...
From the looks of things, even though Posi handed control over to WW so he could focus on the Incarnate system, it seems that all of ParagonStudio's resources are being engulfed by said system for at least the next 2 issues.
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Keep Calm & Chive On!
Or maybe not having anymore.
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Link| I wouldn't hold my breath -- Posi stated at the Bay Area Meet & Greet this past year that all of the powerset proliferation is done. That's not to say their plans couldn't change in the future, but at least as of that night when he made the comment, he seemed (to me, at least) to be very definite about that. |
Note, I'm not saying they are correct and even they admit what was said rather loosely. I honestly don't think "everything" will get ported like it was the originally mentioned by Posi. I think the devs make new sets to make certain types of sets for other ATs since they won't port others over, ie WP for tanks instead of Regen, which to me has zero chance of working. I think side switching on some level killed future ports.
I still think 1-2 more rounds covers "everything" that needs to be done. And yes, even if I can nitpick why certain sets haven't been done, others leave me scratching my head. I think /ice for scrappers didn't get done since Ice is so known for being an aggro controlling set and that's not what a scrapper is for. See brutes getting a taunt aura for /sr, but scrappers still don't have it. I think at some point scrappers get a def based set with a heal to help fill in the /ice and /nin void.
Yup.... really sad too. I have been waiting to make /nin scrappers, fire/etc defenders, and illusion doms for quite a long time, but it seems like we'll be waiting a while longer.
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I think Ill doms happen, but it's deemed a new powerset, ie Dark Illusion, or something to that effect.
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Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
Yup.... really sad too. I have been waiting to make /nin scrappers, fire/etc defenders, and illusion doms for quite a long time, but it seems like we'll be waiting a while longer.
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I really would love it if Ice Melee was made into a scrapper/brute set.
But probably right, it's unlikely to happen.
The reason controllers will probably never get /traps or /dark miasma is because those are very 'controllery' sets for defenders. Imagine how powerful Poison Gas Trap would be when combined with an AoE hold, or the amount of Hold that can be dished out with Petrifying Gaze in the secondary of a controller. Or stacking Howling Twilight with some of the AoE stuns in the controller sets.
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Originally Posted by Neggy Z
Imagine how powerful Poison Gas Trap would be when combined with an AoE hold
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That takes care of what I was going to say.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
About the same as Choking Cloud?
Different from Ice Arrow how? Stacking with Thunder Clap is kinda handy too, yeah. |
I want a /Rad MM.
And a /Sonic MM.
All I'm gonna say.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
About the same as Choking Cloud?
Different from Ice Arrow how? Stacking with Thunder Clap is kinda handy too, yeah. |
Too bad about the mezz protected Illusionists with soft capped defenses and reliable single target Containment blowing anything Ill/Rad or Ill/Cold has ever done out of the water.
PS I can't be the only person waiting to see if the devs will make the mistake of releasing a single target immob temp power, thereby doubling the damage of Illusionists in AV fights.
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It really wouldn't. 70%-ish of illusion's damage comes from pets, which don't have containment.
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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
PS I can't be the only person waiting to see if the devs will make the mistake of releasing a single target immob temp power, thereby doubling the damage of Illusionists in AV fights.
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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I think the sticky bit with Illusion dominators is how the power set is heavily based around pets and pseudopets. I'm not sure if they'd be building Domination for you, or if they did, it'd be at an absurd rate.
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Personaly i would rather see a rework of exsisting sets, or more customisation to the powers (i serious HATE the elec hold animation, i rather have the Patron one that blaster has), alternate version for the 'weapon powers' in Ice and Fire sets. Along with weaponsets being able to cast their other side without redrawing or better suiting patrons for weapon sets. (like blaster has an AR version, but has no dual pistol or arrow version).
And im not gonna mention the AI of MM pe.. ok i did..
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Being soft capped isn't so important if you have perma PA. Sure, it's nice to have, but PA's taunt should get the vast majority of things away from you. Add in Deceive and using it even while invisible.|
Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
Too bad about the mezz protected Illusionists with soft capped defenses and reliable single target Containment blowing anything Ill/Rad or Ill/Cold has ever done out of the water.
PS I can't be the only person waiting to see if the devs will make the mistake of releasing a single target immob temp power, thereby doubling the damage of Illusionists in AV fights. |
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Originally Posted by Doc_Reverend
I think the sticky bit with Illusion dominators is how the power set is heavily based around pets and pseudopets. I'm not sure if they'd be building Domination for you, or if they did, it'd be at an absurd rate.
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
Being soft capped isn't so important if you have perma PA. Sure, it's nice to have, but PA's taunt should get the vast majority of things away from you. Add in Deceive and using it even while invisible.
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Maybe, but that's not the point. The point is Illusion/Traps would be outrageously overpowered, and being able to soft cap to nearly everything is just a part of why.
But bring on the other prolifs.
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I just want my plant/traps. It would practially create a whole new battlefield with the traps and creepers and such. Like a Vietnam War theme, with artillery in the jungle.
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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
Maybe, but that's not the point. The point is Illusion/Traps would be outrageously overpowered, and being able to soft cap to nearly everything is just a part of why.
But bring on the other prolifs. |
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Originally Posted by Pyro_Master_NA
I just want my plant/traps. It would practially create a whole new battlefield with the traps and creepers and such. Like a Vietnam War theme, with artillery in the jungle.
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Bolded for emphasis and Mace Scrappers.
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Originally Posted by Pyro_Master_NA
Does anyone know when the next powerset proliferation will be? I have enough altitis as it is, but I have wanted a /traps controller for a long time now, and was curious if anyone heard when we could *potentially* get that, or any other combos people want, such as dark blasters/controllers, or MA brutes and such.
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Does anyone know when the next powerset proliferation will be? I have enough altitis as it is, but I have wanted a /traps controller for a long time now, and was curious if anyone heard when we could *potentially* get that, or any other combos people want, such as dark blasters/controllers, or MA brutes and such.