Incarnate Proliferation Ideas

Yeah, that could work for a "physical" judgement.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

I was thinking more of doing it in the BAF or Lambda Sector, and the mobs affected would be hurled out over the walls

thats what I meant, hence the edit before your reply

This is kind of why I'm growing more and more disillusioned to tying these now powers to the Well. It mandates that all these powers at least look like they're coming from the well. And it's hard to imagine that the well would give you an Orbital cannon. I mean, whose divine power is that? Schwerer Gustav, god of siege artillery? The only other explanation is that you were "inspired" to get a giant orbital laser and at that point... Did the Well really "give" it to you?

Yes, I agree with an Orbital Laser power and with an Artillery Support power and such. Would love to see them. Not sure what we'll have to re-explain to account for them, but I want them.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

That's the way the Well works. It's a source of power, no matter what form it takes. Inspiration and Innovation as much as arcane might.

The Well is the source of all power, as it were. It is the source of random Mutation, the source of human (or inhuman) ingenuity with Technology, the source of Magic, the source of a lab experiment going incredibly right instead of outright killing the Scientist, it is the source of pure willpower and cunning for all things Natural.

For expanded Lore pets, I'd love a Demons set!

The Machine God, all hail the Omnisiah!

I'm sure that once upon a time people thought it weird gods might use the new fangled swords. Times change, so do concepts of gods.

If I wasn't focusing on getting Incarnate powers for my characters, I'd been off to the character creator right now. Because when Schwerer Gustav speaks, you listen. I'm thinking AR/Traps Corruptor, military pants, long black beard and a beret. Probably with a tan tank top and the Alpha aura around his head. All bow down to the God of Heavy Artillery! Or he will make you bow down, one bullet at the time.

"You draw the essence of a large, orbital laser cannon from the minds of many a mad scientist, combine it with the power of the well to layth downth a smackdownth."

Who says anything about one of the most poorly handled pieces of lore giving me anything? SCREW THE WELL OF FURIES LORE! I'M AN RPER!

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

I have to admit, I laughed.

Some of my characters

... Well. alright then... You just keep doing that then.
Anyway though, I'm going to go come up with better explanations for my incarnate powers that flip the present incarnate lore a middle finger that it'll never forget.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

I'm pretty sure she will

Well, that was the idea

Truth be told, I've had a lot of fun coming up with fictional gods of traditionally ungodly concepts, like guns, siege artillery, micro circuitry, mass communication and so forth. Especially coming up with appropriate names

So, yeah, definitely not saying that such gods can't exist, more that we haven't really seen even a nod towards less conventional gods with powers other than "the power of the divine," as War Witch (the character) explains it, which usually manifests in forms "like magic."

It's a somewhat limiting concept when it comes to gods, actually, stuck with pre-medieval theology as we are. I mean, sure, I can understand some gods' powers being the ability to command lightning or volcanoes... But why can't we have a god whose power is "having a Death Star?" Hell, even ancient Roman smith Daedalus acts like he has high-tech gadgets but ends up just shooting radiation out of his hands. I know he's supposed to be a Roman Positron, but come on, now. Give us some more decent tech!

I've said it before and I will say it again - THAT is the one last big breakthrough we have left to implement into the character designer. Once we have the ability to fire weapon powers out of our hands or out of different classes of weapons, as well as fire non-weapon powers out of weapons, there will be not much left to add to the costume creator other than to expand sideways with more items and options.

That's kind of what I was hoping would happen with Incarnate powers, but I knew better than to expect it. But consider how cool it would be if I could snag, say, Ice Judgement, but instead of shooting forth a spray of icicles, I do a series of slashes with the sword I have already equpped. Or shoot the spray out of the barrel of my gun. Or project it from my shield.

Yes, I'm aware of the technical limitations, and yes, I'm aware of the workload, but you know what? I would take THAT tech and that content over Incarnates any day.

And then there's that. I almost cried when I read bAss' post on how the Well is the source of all power, because if I were to actually accept that (I'm still in stubborn denial), it would mean the utter defilement of every single character I have, and such a colossal destruction of anything even resembling story in this game that I would be forced to throw my hands in the air and just give up. On the spot.

This is an unbelievably bad idea and a horrible example of god-mode writing in an environment where player choice and design used to reign supreme. "Player choice" is why a lot of us are here. Hell, the one thing which convinced me to give City of Heroes a try was that among all the screenshots I saw of the game, I could never find two even similar characters. This rewriting of our characters needs to stop.

So, yeah, I'm more than willing to just ignore the "well was the source of my power to begin with" angle and just pretend the powers I'm getting from the Trials were mine to begin with. The problem isn't that I can't accept weird god with weird powers, but more so that the writers have written themselves into a corner that they appear either unable or unwilling to work themselves out of.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.