I20- I'll be watching from the sidelines
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Posted on: 2011-04-04 14:56 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Reading this thread reaffirms my belief this really is the best MMO community around, bar none. I'm very happy for the OP!
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Originally Posted by je_saist
So, regardless of the underlying problem experienced by the original poster, NCSoft still fails for an exceedingly poor choice in tools used to build their launcher.
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NCSoft and the thousands of other companies who are using the same tools?
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Yes, the Launcher does allow for interrupted downloads.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
I have a different problem. With no pre issue patch due to the new updater it is going to take me a very long time to get the issue patch since I'm limited to 5 hours of connect time a day on dial-up. That's about 80MB a day. I assume the new updater allows interrupted downloads (it better or I'm SOL).
At least before I could get the bulk of the patch over a couple of weeks and only have to deal with a 30-40MB patch on release day.  C'est la vie. |
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
I can't stress this enough: the function call CoH is currently trying to use is not present in Windows XP SP2.
The documentation of the offending function can be found here: GetLogicalProcessorInformation Function (Windows) Notice the Requirements specifications at the bottom: |
). I'm still going to wait until tomorrow before installing SP3. I never installed it in the first place because it was superfluous considering what my personal computer gets used for, and SP2 users still receive security updates.Anyone who doesn't want to install SP3 using Windows Update (whatever your reasons may be) can simply go here to download it and install it manually. This area of the Microsoft website is just offering a manual download and will not ask to scan your computer first. Feel free to ignore the bit at the bottom that dissuades single-computer users from the manual install. That bit is there solely to persuade users to visit Windows Update. Alternatively, you may go here if you want to download a CD image file to burn to disc.
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Originally Posted by Casual_Player
It seems that Issue 20 requires at a minimum that you be running Windows XP service pack 3. According to this thread here, anyhow.
It turns out that the computer my wife bought me 6 and a half years ago did not have an authorized version of Windows XP.  |
You can STILL get authorized OEM copies of XP. They're just not in normal channels any longer.
http://www.pricewatch.com/gallery/so...p_professional
Granted, you're going to have to reinstall your OS to do so, but...
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System image to a big external HD.
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Originally Posted by Soul_Stormer
btw, i literally can't update to SP3. i have a legit copy and have tried in vain multiple times to get it to patch to SP3. i'd reformat, but with 7 years worth of games and programs i'd rather not reinstall or potentially lose that data.
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Aw, man! And here I was all ready with a "So we have confirmation once and for all that Issue 20 sidelines the Casual Player" joke!|
Originally Posted by Casual_Player
Thank you SO much to the many kind folks who pm'd me! One of your solutions did the trick!
I have spent the last ack-many hours downloading SP3 and patches galore but finally got onto the beta server! |
...actually, that could still work. "Just when it looked like Issue 20 was going to sideline the Casual Player, the community came together to help prevent it!"
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does it say anything that i already have the ncsoft launcher installed and have been running CoX from it for weeks?
i mean, given my past experience, i'm going to wait and see. if i have to figure this out, at least i can count on threads like this to give me ideas and options.
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I want to chime in on the question of "Why illegal?"
I work as tech support for a university here. We have "Professional Edition" copies of Windows XP and Windows 7 enough to cover all work computers, as those work off a multi-use key. About every other time I sit down to service somebody's work computer, I run into pirated software, be it operating system, anti-virus software, system optimizers and so forth. Most of the time these date back to three, four, five years ago to people who no longer work with us, who've installed this crap on their machines and them passed them down to other people who are not computer-savvy enough to know better.
Part of the problem is irresponsible people. I can't tell you how many times I've yelled at my co-workers for having downloaded illegal torrents of software we have perfectly licensed, that I could have legally put on their machines within the span of a few minutes. Failing that, how many people will download torrents for paid software that perfectly free alternatives exist to that aren't really any worse.
So, yeah, it's not hard for me to see why someone might have ended up with an illegal copy of Windows XP and never noticed. Those tend to have auto-updates disabled on them, so a not-too-savvy user may never even realise his or her system is not updating. Or, worse still, said computer could be behind a proxy, and Windows Update sucks for that. Part of its communications fail to take proxy settings into account.
I do know there are options for solving said problem, but I also know discussing them is probably against the rules.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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The inevitable thread starts. This is (mostly?) solved by updating to SP3?
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So- if we cant for whatever reason update to SP3, we can no longer play CoH, due to patch content requiring SP3? thats lovely, account cancellation here i come.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Then you're screwed. GetLogicalProcessorInformation() absolutely must have SP3 or newer.
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Not for nothing, but a couple of years ago I purchased an OEM 64 bit version of XP from New Egg, according to Microsoft it is not "genuine" and it won't update either. That was and will be my last Windows based machine. I'd rather pay the extra cash for a Mac that will give me less hassles. Or when I get extra time, blow that machine out and try to figure out a way to run CoX on a Linux box.
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You are lucky when I Microsoft send me an email saying my version of Windows was unauthorized they just crippled my system so I HAD to buy a new copy of Windows. Got my system (with Windows installed) from Comp USA who apparently went broke for a reason. :-|
You can upgrade to Vista for free though. Just throw your system off a 300 ft cliff, it has pretty much the same effect.
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Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack
That was and will be my last Windows based machine. I'd rather pay the extra cash for a Mac that will give me less hassles. Or when I get extra time, blow that machine out and try to figure out a way to run CoX on a Linux box.
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So you're looking to play the game with "no hassles".
So you're going to go to operating platforms that are afterthoughts and require third-party software to run. More over you're going to spend a bunch of time, money, and effort teaching yourself a new operating system.
DOES NOT COMPUTE!
Also, speaking from experience here, Mac and Linux have their own hassles. Just different ones (usually).
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You hit the nail on the head, though stick around. I expect a "hotfix" before long that will address their dumbfounding mistake.|
Originally Posted by Megalopolis
So- if we cant for whatever reason update to SP3, we can no longer play CoH, due to patch content requiring SP3?
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
So you're going to go to operating platforms that are afterthoughts and require third-party software to run. More over you're going to spend a bunch of time, money, and effort teaching yourself a new operating system.
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I'm sorry, but Windows XP is a ten year old operating system. Move along into the 21st Century.
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Originally Posted by Celestial_Lord
Move along into the 21st Century.
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I couldn't get it to work on my other computer under Wine, but I imagine Cedega would have done the trick (had I been able to afford it).
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
CoH runs beautifully on Linux.
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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WINE's come a long way recently, and I think I heard that the Cedega project got a new name and is free now.
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You might not need to reinstall the OS. When you buy the OEM copy, it'll come with its own serial number; you can apply that serial number to the already installed OS and it should work. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328874
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Cas,
You can STILL get authorized OEM copies of XP. They're just not in normal channels any longer. http://www.pricewatch.com/gallery/so...p_professional Granted, you're going to have to reinstall your OS to do so, but... |
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
CoH runs beautifully on Linux.
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Originally Posted by Leandro
You might not need to reinstall the OS. When you buy the OEM copy, it'll come with its own serial number; you can apply that serial number to the already installed OS and it should work. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328874
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Only works on a volume license key. If you try it on an OEM copy, it'll fail. The license is matched to the media. And there are several "versions" of the OEM media out there at each major patch level.
So multiple versions at:
XP (Release)
XP SP1
XP SP2
XP SP3
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Hmmm... I may have to do a Linux partition on the new rig and see what happens, then. Although the last time I tried getting WINE to work on my old computer, I couldn't get any games to work, due to my particular video card not playing well with it.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
WINE's come a long way recently, and I think I heard that the Cedega project got a new name and is free now.
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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Good luck! I hope you manage things well Casual Player.
The documentation of the offending function can be found here: GetLogicalProcessorInformation Function (Windows)
Notice the Requirements specifications at the bottom:
Windows Vista, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Windows XP with SP3