Sunday Blue side Hamidon

Thanks champion for turning out for my first official weekly raid,
We gave it a great try worthy of a win.
We can make it happen.
Although we started with no more than 35 people in the zone we made it through the first wave.
I commend everyone for their turn out.
I will not surrender to the Jello.
Hope to see you there next Sunday 6pm est.
thanks again
@hey its pops

Sorry Pops i'll try to make it next Sunday.

Thanks, lookin forward to it.

Though I've participated in and helped lead many, many, many raids on Justice over the years, this was my first Champion raid.

I was impressed with how well it went, especially with the zone never completely filling.

Thanks for going to all of the trouble of leading.

I think we did rather well, considering a few frequent disconnects, only a handful of emps/pain doms around, and an insufficient amount of EoEs.

I hope next time people might bring a handful with them to the raid next time

Also, thank God for the in-zone hospital, let me tell you. It was only my second time on the Yellow assault team (typically, I am a yellow taunter), and I made darn good use of it.

Thanks for leading Pops!

Thank you, Champion.

Well thanks Champion, was a fun experience, but I considered the pros ans the cons over runnin a weekly hami raid.
As for now I am no longer hosting a weekly blue side Hami raid I am hoping that in weeks to come i may consider in runnin a Hami raid again.
I found out by puttin myself out there, devoting my time to arrange a league, usually an hour b4 start time. I am not one servers cool kids, but I figured there were plenty of ppl that would support a community event.
I found out the ppl don't have the patience to wait for the the raid to start. Nor do we want ppl on teams cause of one reason or another.
As a community I thought we could put differences aside. That whoever you are, or what SG you support you can turn out and be part of one of IMHO one of the best end-game raids in COH.
I have not nor will not turn my back on the people Champion server, I hope that one day we may loose our rep as the drama server

It started off fairly promising, and i thought it was going pretty well all things considered until people started bailing after one partial wipe.

i'll try to make the next one. i'll probably bring a more buff/debuff focused alt. Probably a Rad or Dark.

I am curious what the raid or team leaders were supposed to do about Bud and his 2 accounts? Its something he has been doing for years. In fact before the zone limits being so low he often brought way more accounts in than that. I think its way better to let him help and be on teams and helping than alienate him and stir up drama and just have him go sit on a rock and not contribute.

But contributing some on 2 accounts > him sitting on a rock on 10 accounts.

Either way he is gonna do it, why make a bad situation worse?

*realize I wasn't at the raid and have no idea what the drama entailed.

Sorry to hear it Pops. Thanks for the time, effort and hassle.
As mentioned all the new shinnies are having a big affect. A specific case, I used to do 3 to 5 raids, Saturday afternoons on Virtue. Issue 20 goes live, zip. I have not seen more that 2 people in the hive since.
A big chunk of the lag is caused be the league interface. Sorry to quote mention another server. On Guardian, they quit using the league interface, huge improvement, even with some incarnate pets still used.

I was at the raid and it just didn't go well. That happens, no big deal. Thanks to Pops & Sep for trying to pull it together.

However, I have to admit that I've lost patience with nearly any sort of event starting 30+ minutes late. My game time isn't unlimited. Spending half an hour or more waiting for someone else to finish up a TF or trial so they can join the raid means I'm just sitting there for that whole time. I could be doing something else, something productive, something fun - just like the people that we end up waiting for. I'm kind of tired of waiting.

Waiting happens with every raid on Champion, so it's not specific to any player running the raid or even the type of raid. Since i19 popped up, players just have too much grinding ahead of them to get all the new material for their favorite characters. Low drop rates mean lots of time spent grinding and multiple characters mean repeating it all ad nauseum. By the time most of us catch up to i20, new powers will open up and new trials with them, dragging out the grind even more. Unless it grants an accolade or a bunch of people get a wild hair, the old stuff just won't be run a whole lot.

Hami Raids 'll come back, they always do.

I'm sure many folks appreciate your efforts Pops, never get discouraged by just a few when what you're doing can benefit many.

Like I've always said, you cannot blame the failure of an event on one person, one leader, one group.

I myself dreaded Hamidon Raids, still do, but came to support my sg mates and friends when it was time to do so. However, I'm sure we both knew, Pops and I, that when these Trials hit, the attendance would dwindle. I would just like to thank the people who did show up every Sunday and actually stuck it out, even when the outcome of winning looked slim.

I would hope to see these raids continue despite the current madness, even if it means impromptu style.

I think the decline of Hami raids was inevitable. It's not anyone's fault, least of all the people who step up to lead them. Combine burnout with new stuff to do in I20 (stuff that requires quite a bit of time investment) and given that the rewards of a Hamidon raid don't do much if you're going for the new slots, it was only a matter of time before they fell out of favor. It becomes a negative feedback loop: the raids will fail (or attendance will fall below the minimum threshold for success) because fewer people want to do them, and fewer people will want to do them if they think they're going to fail. I doubt Hami raiding is gone for good. At some point the devs might revisit it, give it the kinda treatment they've given the new trials (and maybe, just maybe, give us a hint at what their intended method was for taking him down).

Sorry Pops to hear about the raid. I was playing with my son and couldn't convince him to join.

I know one thing the devs could do to pique Hami interest, give a choice of getting a Hami O, Shards or ... threads. That would be a very easy addition and would give rewards to players who are grinding the two new trials.

I didn't say he should be accommodated. What I said is he is going to do it regardless of what the rest of the server wants or whats right or morally fair. No raid leader can do jack **** about it so the best bet is just to keep the drama down and not let it impact the raid.

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Originally Posted by Myrmydon You know, I keep seeing people say that we should accomodate Budweiser, however, I think that maybe he should work at accomodating us. All this dual boxing is fine for people that want to do it on their own, however, Not everyone really likes the idea of it and they shouldn't have to be subjected to it in a "community" event. Maybe its his turn to work with everyone else for a change. All of you want to end the "drama" on this server. You want to get rid of this idea of "cliques" and "cool kids". Fine, let's put an end to it.