Movie Reboots Are Just Respecs


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After reading a few threads about all the movie reboots that are in the works at the moment I had a thought; they're all just respecs. Bear with me here.

You want to make a new character, so you decide on a name, a back-story, work out the archetype, powersets, the core powers you need to include. Then you go to work on the details, the costume, the pool powers, the enhancements.

You put a lot of time, effort & "money" into building your character up until finally you unleash them upon the world, eagerly awaiting the inevitable success and adulation. But it's soon obvious that something isn't quite right; it's just not as good as you expected, people don't respond well to them, success remains tantalizingly out of reach and so, reluctantly, you chalk it all up to experience and put them away into storage.

Then, months later, while searching for something new to play, your gaze falls upon your old character and you think to yourself: Maybe, with just a few changes here and there, I could make them a success after all. So you break out Mids' and trawl the forums, swap some powers around here, some slots around there, create a newer costume, make a few changes to the back-story and maybe add a pet Rikti Monkey sidekick for good measure. Finally, you change your character title to "The" and send them out into the world anew, all the while pretending that their former incarnation never existed.

Surely, this time, success will come and if not, you can always wait a little while and try respeccing again...


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There's one flaw with your analogy: most if not all remakes are of *successful* movies. And it's the original movie's success that causes the remake. "Hey, if it made money before it can make money again with a new audience." Very rarely (afaik) does a movie that does poorly at the box office get remade.


 

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Not so much complete failures, but more and more often these days movies that weren't quite as successful as hoped or movie franchises that had started to run out of steam, such as Spiderman, Fast & Furious and, arguably, X-Men First Class.


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I think a more appropriate analogy is where a freespec is given because Enhancement Diversification, Invention enhancements, Inherent Fitness, or some other monumental change is introduced. Your "build" was perfect or at least good enough, but due to some changes like CG, it needs to change. Say I created this movie twenty years ago. I had this scene in my head that I couldn't add because the technology just didn't exist. Now I can add it in, but instead of adding just one scene, I can change the interaction between a few of the characters because I think they would do better to provide depth to the movie.


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Originally Posted by starphoenix View Post
i think a more appropriate analogy is where a freespec is given because enhancement diversification, invention enhancements, inherent fitness, or some other monumental change is introduced. Your "build" was perfect or at least good enough, but due to some changes like cg, it needs to change. Say i created this movie twenty years ago. I had this scene in my head that i couldn't add because the technology just didn't exist. Now i can add it in, but instead of adding just one scene, i can change the interaction between a few of the characters because i think they would do better to provide depth to the movie.
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Movie Reboots are just Lazy (fix'd it for you).

Hollywood seems less and less interested in new original concepts that might require them to take a chance at the box office and more in name-recognition-based cheap rewrites/reboots of tried and true properties.

Reboots are basically the Reality TV Shows of the cinema. Usually not (as) expensive to do, and even if they're really, really horrid they'll draw attention (aka receipts) of ghoulish rubberneckers just lining up to see the bodies on the highway.


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Originally Posted by Jet_Boy View Post
Movie Reboots are just Lazy (fix'd it for you).

Hollywood seems less and less interested in new original concepts that might require them to take a chance at the box office and more in name-recognition-based cheap rewrites/reboots of tried and true properties.

Reboots are basically the Reality TV Shows of the cinema. Usually not (as) expensive to do, and even if they're really, really horrid they'll draw attention (aka receipts) of ghoulish rubberneckers just lining up to see the bodies on the highway.
"Usually not as expensive?" Not sure where you're getting that notion.

This "reboot" stuff is just an info-age word meaning "remake." Hollywood has always done it, but nowadays they stand out because there are fewer films released than there were 70 years ago. Even the speed of the reboot/remake is nothing new. The Maltese Falcon directed by John Huston and starring Humphrey Bogart was the third film of that book made by Warner Brothers in less than a decade, which was not at all unusual for the time. (So common was the practice of remaking things, George Raft had a clause in his contract specifically stating that he wouldn't appear in any remakes... which is why he passed on Falcon and Bogart got the role. What did Raft make instead? The forgettable Manpower.)


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Fast & Furious
When have they remade The Fast and the Furious? It's all been sequels and in-between prequels so far.


 

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The problem is that most modern remakes respec out of their mez protection and pick up Flurry.


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...movie franchises that had started to run out of steam, such as Spiderman...
This kind of highlights the flaw of your argument. First off, it didn't lose steam so much as just sucked. Spiderman 1 and 2? Great! Spiderman 3? Felt like an elseworld comic. It's like they did a reboot before the franchise was done. Also, Spiderman wasn't that long ago. Are we so bad at generating ideas we have to repeat them before half a decade has gone by?

Think of it this way, running the same movie concepts over and over is like when your favorite band finally gets some air play on the radio, and they play it non-stop to the point you hate it. Is that really what you want movies to be like?


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The problem is that most modern remakes respec out of their mez protection and pick up Flurry.
Eh, forget my last post. C_G won the thread.


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