Why Hollywood??? Thor Spoiler and DOOM!
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Anti_Proton,
Posted on: 2011-03-07 10:02 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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In the comic for years the Asgardians were shown to have both super advanced science and sorcery at their command. Of late it seems to have shifted more to magic. |
Originally Posted by Fritzdog
Bad news for Thor fans, it seem our beloved Norse God will not be a god at all in the new movie but instead will be an alien with superior technology
 Here is the sad, sad story. I was looking forward to this but it just got demoted to "wait till its on Netflix" status. I really don't mind when small changes are made to these characters but when they alter something so fundamental to the character (i.e. Thor not a god or Deadpool with no mouth, ect.) for no good reason, it just smacks of some schmuck trying to put his name on it. I can only hope that his alien origin is mentioned in passing and I can at least pretend hes the Norse god I know and love..... Shame on you Hollywood, Shame! (sorry if my nerd rage colored this post angry) |
Also it's been speculated that many of the ancient gods could have been advanced beings from other planes of existence or planets that had such vast power they would seem to be god-like.
Remember the Babylon 5 episode of Season 2 when the Technomages arrived on the station? Their leader was talking to Sheridan and asked him how he could explain the station itself to beings of 1000 years ago? Sheridan responded that it could likely only be explained as magic.
When Sinclair's girlfriend went to that planet and her ship got zapped by the UFO's energy wake, she later asks G'kar what it was. He then picked up an ant from a flower and set it back down on the flower and then said "What if that ant asks another ant what just happened to it? The other ant would say 'I don't know'." G'kar then went on to explain that there are beings in the universe far older then us and they walk the stars as giants.
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I'm not getting a "space alien" vibe, I'm getting a "different plane of existence alien" vibe.
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Originally Posted by Arnabas
That's just it though... They are on another plane, a different level of existance. They are gods-- primal forces of the universe. In the movie, the implication is that they are space aliens with advanced tech. While the net result is the same, it is the tone and feel of the character that changes.
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You mean.....like the aliens from Indy 4: Kingdom of Crystal Skull? |
Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
I'm not getting a "space alien" vibe, I'm getting a "different plane of existence alien" vibe.
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But there was no Indy 4. |
Originally Posted by Nericus
You mean.....like the aliens from Indy 4: Kingdom of Crystal Skull?
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Branching Paragon Police Department Epic Archetype, please!
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I have to go with this explanation as the most plausible. However, to add fuel to the fire.|
Originally Posted by Chyll
fixed that for you.
The last thing they wanted was any hullabaloo from the conservative religious concerned Hollywood watchers on a block buster targeted film. bingo |
1. Thor always had an air of arrogance about him that could only be deemed acceptable if he was a god. Anything less and he's a bit of a jerk.
2. A god's distinction, beyond some alien, is the final word (judge?) on life and death.
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Yes, Lucas did catch some heat for implying/stating that Shmi Skywalker had no husband or lover and that Anakin was conceived via the Force. A few religous folk took exception with that. |
Originally Posted by PlanetStar
I have to go with this explanation as the most plausible. However, to add fuel to the fire.
1. Thor always had an air of arrogance about him that could only be deemed acceptable if he was a god. Anything less and he's a bit of a jerk. |
As to THOR being a jerk, that IS why in the comics all those years ago that ODIN stripped him of the hammer and cast him down to Earth in the form of Donald Blake. THOR needed some humility and ODIN felt this was the way to teach him.
It finally took the arrival of Beta Ray Bill and his subsequent defeating of THOR to get that lesson over with.
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| 2. A god's distinction, beyond some alien, is the final word (judge?) on life and death. |
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Precisely.|
Originally Posted by Nericus
I can't see certain gods such as Hercules, or Apollo being the final word on such a thing as their powers don't seem to include healing or resurrection. The ruler of a Pantheon of gods on the other hand or the "god" that rules over their netherworld would be such authorities.
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People seem to forget that "gods" in most mythologies are not of the he omnipotent omnisentient creators-of-the-universe judge-and-master-of-the-afterlife that some attribute to the singular form. They often had a role in the creation myth... and some may have roles in different parts of the afterlife... but that's about it.
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Also going by myth's and legends, every pantheon seems to have created the universe. At least from their viewpoint. Gets confusing, doesn't it? |
Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
Precisely.
People seem to forget that "gods" in most mythologies are not of the he omnipotent omnisentient creators-of-the-universe judge-and-master-of-the-afterlife that some attribute to the singular form. They often had a role in the creation myth... and some may have roles in different parts of the afterlife... but that's about it. |
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Every mythology usually has a creation myth-- learning where you come from and why you're here is a powerful human craving-- but oftentimes in these tales the gods themselves aren't the creators or initiators of the universe/world. In these instances, they are actors within and upon the world but not the creators. Sometimes they even allude to precursors.
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Also going by myth's and legends, every pantheon seems to have created the universe. At least from their viewpoint. Gets confusing, doesn't it?
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The poster seems to think he is a still a god :-)
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