Robocop slated for reboot treatment.
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Posted on: 2011-02-21 09:36 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Hollywood these days, they cannot come up with original ideas it seems, unless it is a comedy, it's either a sequel or a remake.
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Hmmm...I loved Robocop. But could a reboot be as good or better than the original number 1?
I enjoyed 2 and 3, but 1 was the best of the three, and I'm not quite sure if a reboot could be as good as the original!
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I'm sure it will have Will Smith. He loves destroying sci-fi movies.
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The original Robocop holds up surprisingly well. The only way they could improve on it is to not make the anti-commercialism so heavy handed.
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The biggest issue will be the violence. Commercial success pretty much demands a non-R rating and the original was violent as all hell. Not sucking may also be a challenge.
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Did the original even do well at the box office? |
Originally Posted by Starflier
The biggest issue will be the violence. Commercial success pretty much demands a non-R rating and the original was violent as all hell. Not sucking may also be a challenge.
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I was in diapers at the time. >.>
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According to IMDB, it made $53+ million off a $13 million budget. Not too shabby.
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And it's pretty crazy to think of what they did with just $13M back then, since, again, it does hold up pretty well.
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Originally Posted by Starflier
According to IMDB, it made $53+ million off a $13 million budget. Not too shabby.
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The benefits of not having to pay 15 million to some big name actor to headline the cast.
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They'd probably find a way to spend $13M on doing CGI instead of stop motion for that evil version of Robocop.
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Originally Posted by Starflier
The benefits of not having to pay 15 million to some big name actor to headline the cast.
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Robocop 1 was almost rated X/NC-17 due to the violence. I have the Criterion Director Cut version on DVD and the scene where the junior exec is blasted by ED-209 is a bit more gruesome and the scene where Alex getting shot to pieces was even more violent and then the scene of his partner kneeling next to him and the massive blood pool...... yeah I can see why they had to make a few scissor snips on those scenes to get an R rating.
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Originally Posted by Starflier
The biggest issue will be the violence. Commercial success pretty much demands a non-R rating and the original was violent as all hell. Not sucking may also be a challenge.
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I think I was in 2nd or 3rd grade when it came out. I didn't see it till was on TV as an edited version. I enjoyed the heck of it none the less. (My dad watched all fun stuff with me, Aliens, Predator, Terminator and Robocop with me...TV edited but he still let me watch it.) I'm ok with them rebooting it. It might be fun too.
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In a related story, RoboCop fans raise $50,000 for giant statue to stand guard over Detroit.
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Just what is not needed. Nothing against Robocop and I'm sure it will be a great looking statue......but still.....
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
In a related story, RoboCop fans raise $50,000 for giant statue to stand guard over Detroit.
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It does seem kind of ironic that they would raise money for this when the city is hurting economically and financial strife played heavily into the films. |
Originally Posted by Nericus
Just what is not needed. Nothing against Robocop and I'm sure it will be a great looking statue......but still.....
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Yeah the irony is rather extreme. |
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
It does seem kind of ironic that they would raise money for this when the city is hurting economically and financial strife played heavily into the films.
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Now if that money could help develop an actual Robocop to clean up the streets....
Or if they could create a statue of Captain America to be placed in Washington D.C.......
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People love to say this. In fact, for about as long as I have been paying any attention people have always said this. Do you want to know why? Because Hollywood has always been rehashing ideas, recycling franchises, and spawning sequels. This is simply because a known quantity is assumed to be a safer bet than investing a great deal of money into something new. |
Originally Posted by 2short2care
Hollywood these days, they cannot come up with original ideas it seems, unless it is a comedy, it's either a sequel or a remake.
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Let's look at some examples:
Earl DerBiggers wrote five Charlie Chan novels. Hollywood made 44 Charlie Chan movies over 18 years.
The Blondie comic strip you've seen in the paper spawned 28 movies over 12 years.
The James Bond franchise has been running along for five decades now. This has been 22 films over almost five decades. Some of the stories are almost directly recycled from previous films.
Would it be fair to point out how many versions of Romeo and Juliet have been made? Hamlet? Or how about how many Robin Hood films?
Let's not fool ourselves. Hollywood has always been like this because rehashing things has always brought in the dough. When it stops bringing in the dough, then it will stop.
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I'm far from an expert on such matters, but I think it holds up partially because they used an actual suit. The stiff, slow movements helped with the "yeah, that's an experimental cyborg" illusion of the whole thing.|
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
The original Robocop holds up surprisingly well. The only way they could improve on it is to not make the anti-commercialism so heavy handed.
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Ye gods, unless they get like... Del Toro's people, a Robocop remade these days will be another cgi monstrosity, probably bouncing around like Yoda/'Zilla too.
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Definitely. It was be tragic if they messed with the suit. And they already incorporated some fairly advanced software concepts with Robocop's tech, so, really, there isn't much room for improvement at all.
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Originally Posted by Agonus
I'm far from an expert on such matters, but I think it holds up partially because they used an actual suit. The stiff, slow movements helped with the "yeah, that's an experimental cyborg" illusion of the whole thing.
Ye gods, unless they get like... Del Toro's people, a Robocop remade these days will be another cgi monstrosity, probably bouncing around like Yoda/'Zilla too. |
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If they can recapture the "electronic Frankenstein" theme for the character that the first movie had, including the stiff movements then that is a plus. Even a CGI version could still replicate the movements. Even Robo-cable in the Prime Directives mini series had the same stiff movement despite being a newer model.
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Originally Posted by Agonus
I'm far from an expert on such matters, but I think it holds up partially because they used an actual suit. The stiff, slow movements helped with the "yeah, that's an experimental cyborg" illusion of the whole thing.
Ye gods, unless they get like... Del Toro's people, a Robocop remade these days will be another cgi monstrosity, probably bouncing around like Yoda/'Zilla too. |
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Definitely. It was be tragic if they messed with the suit. And they already incorporated some fairly advanced software concepts with Robocop's tech, so, really, there isn't much room for improvement at all.
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An update to the LCD interface and targeting graphics would be standard. Also a faster CPU for processing data would be good. Remember when he bashes the door to the drug lab where Boddicker was cutting that deal and after he gives his warning "Come quietly or there will be....trouble!" Everyone is firing on him for about a minute or two before he starts moving into the lab and ripping them apart. C'mon Robo, we know you had them all target locked, GO GET EM!
Also his Prime Directives:
1. Serve the Public Trust
2. Protect the Innocent
3. Uphold the Law
....hm. Is it me or is one and three pretty much the same? Isn't upholding the law serving the public?
Then there is Directive 4 where he can't take action against OCP personnel.....so if Dick Jones has a gun pointed at some innocent citizen of the city instead of the CEO, wouldn't Directives 1, 2 and 3 be able to override Directive 4? Then again in Prime Directives, Robo was sabotaged and reprogrammed with a new Directive 4 to kill John Cable and he was suffering massive systemic damage from the directives conflict.
It just seems like his Directives are more hindrance then anything.
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Yeah but does a cosmetic upgrade to his HUD and rewording of his central programming really necessitate a whole new movie? I mean, what's the point if they already hit the themes and emotional tones they were shooting for?
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Originally Posted by Nericus
An update to the LCD interface and targeting graphics would be standard. Also a faster CPU for processing data would be good. Remember when he bashes the door to the drug lab where Boddicker was cutting that deal and after he gives his warning "Come quietly or there will be....trouble!" Everyone is firing on him for about a minute or two before he starts moving into the lab and ripping them apart. C'mon Robo, we know you had them all target locked, GO GET EM!
Also his Prime Directives: 1. Serve the Public Trust 2. Protect the Innocent 3. Uphold the Law ....hm. Is it me or is one and three pretty much the same? Isn't upholding the law serving the public? Then there is Directive 4 where he can't take action against OCP personnel.....so if Dick Jones has a gun pointed at some innocent citizen of the city instead of the CEO, wouldn't Directives 1, 2 and 3 be able to override Directive 4? Then again in Prime Directives, Robo was sabotaged and reprogrammed with a new Directive 4 to kill John Cable and he was suffering massive systemic damage from the directives conflict. It just seems like his Directives are more hindrance then anything. |
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I'm just guessing here, but I think the point is to make money. Large amounts of money.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Yeah but does a cosmetic upgrade to his HUD and rewording of his central programming really necessitate a whole new movie? I mean, what's the point if they already hit the themes and emotional tones they were shooting for?
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"Variety reports MGM is setting up financing for the film and several other remake projects. "The Lion has finally started to really stir, with MGM announcing its first post-bankruptcy co-financing deal Thursday and studio execs telling creative reps that it's moving on a quintet of projects, including remakes of 1980s pics 'Mr. Mom' and 'The Idolmaker' and long-gestating reboots of 'RoboCop' and 'Poltergeist,'" they write. At this point, the studio is looking for talent to fill all the vacancies on the project ... which is pretty much every part in the film and position in the crew."
Not surprised given the reception that Robocop 2 and 3 received. The TV series was fun even if it was toned down for network TV. Robocop Alpha Commando was a fun cartoon. The Prime directives Mini series started good and then kind of tanked in part 4.
Also in Robocop related news there is reports of a group attempting to raise money and convince the mayor of Detroit to have a Robocop statue created and placed in the city, similar to how there is a statue of Fonzi in Milwaukee.
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