even at the stealth cap they can see you, stalkers in hide get seen by the drones
the only way to really stealth by them is smoke grenades which do -percep or confuse them so they wont even aggro on you
I see. Thanks for the response. That's a shame.
Get the Ethereal Shift recipe drop (cheap on the market) or the PvP Zone Phase Shift.
Doesn't matter if you're seen.
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Why would he need a temp phase power on a Warshade? They have one in their powersets.
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it was a counter to stealth, implemented as early i started (i3) probably from the beginning. can't expect everything to be stealthable. especially when its alien technology designed to counter it.|
Originally Posted by Black_Aftermath
I see. Thanks for the response. That's a shame.
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you have a phase shift power as a warshade, although i can see why you might not have picked it up.
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Really? I don't have a stalker up high enough to be on the LGTF, but I have a Bane that has gone by Drones before... Cloaking Device can't be better than Stalker hide, can it?
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
even at the stealth cap they can see you, stalkers in hide get seen by the drones
the only way to really stealth by them is smoke grenades which do -percep or confuse them so they wont even aggro on you |
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Option 1: Something is bugged.|
Originally Posted by BeornAgain
Really? I don't have a stalker up high enough to be on the LGTF, but I have a Bane that has gone by Drones before... Cloaking Device can't be better than Stalker hide, can it?
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Option 2: Your bane is slightly outside their perception radius when you go by them.
Option 3: Your defense is so high that when they attack you don't notice because nothing hits you.
Option 4: You go by so fast that they have time to target you but not attack.
Option 5: Someone else is picking up their aggro as you go by.
Option 6: You misremembered the situation.
Option 7: Your bane is magic.
Go with option 7
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On my Stalker, I can Placate them from just outside aggro range, of course, that only works if there's only one in the spawn.
Isn't there a smoke grenade temp power? Paragon Wiki has a Smoke Flash temp power listed, but it's not clear if it does -perception.
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Hmmm, I actually think option 4 is more appropriate...
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Originally Posted by Microcosm
Option 1: Something is bugged.
Option 2: Your bane is slightly outside their perception radius when you go by them. Option 3: Your defense is so high that when they attack you don't notice because nothing hits you. Option 4: You go by so fast that they have time to target you but not attack. Option 5: Someone else is picking up their aggro as you go by. Option 6: You misremembered the situation. Option 7: Your bane is magic. Go with option 7 |
Even a tri-hide stalker will be seen by drones.... So you move fast and that gives you the time
Normally, I SuperSpeed joust them. I run by so fast that by the time the server notifies them I'm in their Perception range, I'm out of their attack range.
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Can't be done |
Originally Posted by Black_Aftermath
What does it take?\
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Nebulous Form works and when it fades eclipse and run through in dwarf form. You'll take little if any damage. After eclipse fades, switch back to human and nebulous form.
You can also teleport past mobs. Warshades have so many tools that they make the ultimate stealthers.
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Drones don't have +perception, they just see invis. Snipers have +perception.
Originally Posted by Megajoule
We're being invaded. Again. This time, instead of aliens, zombies, or eyeballs with teeth, it's the marching band.
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Rikti Drone do have +PERCEPTION, but they don't have the aggro range that Sniper's do. Even if a Drone technically can see you, they won't react to you until you are within their aggro range. For Snipers, perception range and aggro range are the same (very long) range.
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Originally Posted by Razia
Drones don't have +perception, they just see invis. Snipers have +perception.
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Yeah sorry I mixxed the terms up, since I am no native speaker. What I meant is, that they have see invis and don't have +range that comes with perception.
Originally Posted by Megajoule
We're being invaded. Again. This time, instead of aliens, zombies, or eyeballs with teeth, it's the marching band.
What does it take? I have Invisibility on my Shade, primarily for the LotG +Recharge, but also because inherent recall friend makes me an ideal mission stealther. However, those stupid Rikti drones (LGTF, mission 3 in particular) and their +perception still give me fits.
What do I need to do to surpass their perception? Would Unbound Leap in Sprint be enough? Do I also need to get the TP version of stealth and make sure I TP once every 2 minutes?
Thanks in advance!