Self rezzes when alive? Why not?

No, really, why not? I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with a way to exploit this, and I can't. Why not let us use our self-rezzes even if we're not dead? Let us use them whenever to heal and recover as much end as we normally would, debuff or attack enemies, whatever the rez normally does. Using it preemptively would allow you to not get debt, but does anyone even notice debt any more?

Because then it would stop being a rez and start being a heal.

And?

I think it's a combination of these reasons:

1. It could be difficult to implement, having a power that does two different things depending on your dead or alive status.

2. Balance comes into the equation, as the control/damage and self heal in those rezzes may be too powerful if you could fire them whenever they are up.

3. There's not enough demand for it. I can't remember seeing this suggestion before.


So, it's a "It might be cool" suggestion, which would likely give devs a headache. So it's a no from me.

Uh, you'd get the heal.

Also they don't cost end because you don't have any when you're dead.

I feel there should definitely be an endurance cost if the person is alive still. Endurance is a balancing mechanic.

Other than that, I have no problem with your suggestion.

Self rezzes restore end so it'd end up being a wash anyway. Perhaps they could fake it as a non-enhanceable -End on self effect, that happens before all the healing, though. If you use it when your end is low and it makes your toggles drop...well, if you'd died you'd have had to turn your toggles back on anyway.

One thing to consider, is that Fiery Aura's self rez does blaster nuke levels of damage. Add damage buffs into the mix(fury, rage), plus the fact that a self rez recharges faster than a nuke, and you end up with overpowered.

That means further tinkering with the self rez power is needed(to make it do less damage while alive and full damage while dead), which equals more dev time.

Soul transfer FTW! Mag 30 stun, 60+ damage, heal for 300 health an enemy, fill my endurance bar, and become untouchable for 15 seconds.

And I don't have to die to use it?

Ohhh...RotP

Being able to manuver enemies so the knockback wont prevent the entire 333 damage (before enhancements) from hitting them, becoming untouchable for 15s, and adding half my total health and endurance to my bars?

Forget blasters! Tanker nuking, more often, without crash, with healing, +endurance, and greater than MoG level godmode all in one power!

Nothing you can't already do by just letting the enemies kill you first.

Also, Rise of the Phoenix: not stronger than a Blaster nuke.
EDIT: Unless the real numbers lie.

Well obviously, a self rez used while alive would do the inverse of its base effect.

RotP and Soul Transfer would do dmg to foes/mez them but kill you upon use (and no debt for you!) while powers like revive and resurgence would give you the heal/buff but kill you after its effects expire.

Get the Cyborg booster, then you can use Self-Destruct to set yourself up for RotP or Soul Transfer. A teammate could even hit you with Vengeance before you rez.

To be honest, self-resurrection powers are balanced around a couple of assumptions that this request bypasses.

For starters, many are so strong because they are meant to tilt the tables in your favor, because the tables were tilted against you enough to kill you. They are not a buff, they are a rebound. 'Rebounding' from peek strength is not a rebound.

Secondly, they are all in armor sets. The sets have 8 other powers doing their best to keep you alive-the self-resurrects are a designed exception, a power that is not supposed to stack with the other 8, not taken into account for normal survival. Adding another layer of self-preservation that was not supposed to be there makes those armor sets operate completely differently. To be honest, if willpower had a heal with all its regen, regeneration had three heals, dark armor an extra heal/stun WITH +endurance, and fire armor had a massive nuke of damage that was also a second heal/+endurance mechanism, it would break these power sets' performance.

As such, the sets and/or powers would have to be rebalanced for regular access to these abilities, to the point that they wouldn't be strong enough to carry the character back in a killing situation. In short, resurrection powers would stop being good at just that, a single power strong enough to bring the player back from death.

It's not a good plan, and would be more trouble than it's worth. Like them or not, resurrects are a second chance mechanism, placed in sets that are less about a 'winning button' and more about using all other tools to stay alive.

About as serious as a suggestion about using self-rezzes when you're not dead can be.

Honestly, I like the way self-rezzes are as is. If people want to make them usable anytime, there's no real good way to balance that. The only possible options, IMO, would be for a crash suitable for the effect. There needs to be death in there somewhere...