Whatever Happened to the CoH RPG?


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Was randomly looking around the web, and stumbled across (no, not with stumble upon) this: http://www.cityofheroesrpg.com/

What ever happened to this? Their last news update was nearly 5 years ago, and it says the game will be out soon. Did NCSoft/Cryptic and them have a falling out? With Super Hero RPGs seeming as popular as ever, it seems like CoH could make some money with it too. Especially if it was already almost finished.

Anyone know what happened?


 

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You can always make a CoH character in an RPG that isn't in the can. There's several superhero tabletop games out there. Champions, Mutants and Masterminds, [shamelessplug]Legacy Crossing[/shamelessplug]...


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It didn't even get to be stillborn; it was aborted.


 

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It died six years before its inception with the death of all collectible card games that weren't Magic: The Gathering or YuGiOh.
Hey, as far as I can tell from the people at my local gaming shop, the WoW CCG isn't doing too bad.


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Hey, as far as I can tell from the people at my local gaming shop, the WoW CCG isn't doing too bad.
Yeah the WoW CCG is going pretty good. Although I rather cast my 20 plague rats!


 

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You can always make a CoH character in an RPG that isn't in the can. There's several superhero tabletop games out there. Champions, Mutants and Masterminds, [shamelessplug]Legacy Crossing[/shamelessplug]...
In the OPs link it even says right at the top "battle evil Mutants and diabolical Masterminds". Maybe it was just a ripoff of the same system that got squashed.


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I run a semi-regular "Silver Age Sentinels" game myself.

Too bad Guardians of Order went under, I liked a lot of their games.


 

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I run a semi-regular "Silver Age Sentinels" game myself.
Tristat? I miss those massive die rolls...


 

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Used to play BESM Tri-stat myself. Did they ever do a Silver Age Sentinels D20 version? BESM D20 wasn't great :/
Yeah, there is (was) a D20 version as well. According to wikipedia it was released before BESM D20, though.

(Wish I still had my character info. And my old gaming group. Long drive to game, though - FL to OR.) My Silver Age Sentinels character is what eventually became MB in COH - with a fair number of differences, but it *was* the first one I tried making.


 

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I actually remember playing the CoH Pen and Paper RPG years ago at Gen Con or Origins (thinking back now, I think it was Origins). I remember it being a pretty fun system, but it definitely was a beta.


Andy Belford
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I played it at Origins also. It was alright, but I found it hard to get into.


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I also played it at Origins way back when. It was a fun little romp, though our group wasn't entirely playing the real thing. The GM had us ignoring endurance entirely, for example.

I've also fussed around with the quickplay kit, and what they actually had there was rather...lacking. Even really basic explanations of what certain numbers/listings/stuff was were missing, to my dismay. And while the core D10 ruleset was actually pretty nice, I didn't like how they got into the same finicky minutiae that other RPGs get into - things like X points of strength = able to lift Y pounds of weight.

But it is quite timely that there's some interest in City of Heroes PnP RPG stuff. And that's all I'll say for now.


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I regularly steal power ideas from CoX for my homebrew RPGs, does that count


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Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.

So sad to be ending ):

 

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I regularly steal power ideas from CoX for my homebrew RPGs, does that count
Depends...D20 system or not?


Andy Belford
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Paragon Studios

 

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It's remarkably easy to write up City of Heroes powers in Hero System. I'm not too surprised; I suspect the original powers design in the concept stages were first modeled in Hero System before they tried to figure out how to make it into an MMORPG.


 

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It's remarkably easy to write up City of Heroes powers in Hero System. I'm not too surprised; I suspect the original powers design in the concept stages were first modeled in Hero System before they tried to figure out how to make it into an MMORPG.
A few of the signature characters originally were characters in a tabletop Champions game, weren't they?


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A few of the signature characters originally were characters in a tabletop Champions game, weren't they?
I know Positron was originally a Champions character, and so was Statesman, IIRC. Not sure about Castle...

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Was randomly looking around the web, and stumbled across (no, not with stumble upon) this: http://www.cityofheroesrpg.com/

What ever happened to this? Their last news update was nearly 5 years ago, and it says the game will be out soon. Did NCSoft/Cryptic and them have a falling out? With Super Hero RPGs seeming as popular as ever, it seems like CoH could make some money with it too. Especially if it was already almost finished.

Anyone know what happened?
I was on the original beta team to test this for Eden Studios.
They really did their best to try and make it work. I did not stay in the test through the end. I saw a lot of problems and didn't have the time to commit make the RPG feel like it was anything close to the MMORPG. But that is only my opinion there.

The QuickStart was released long after I left the beta test. It does look good and seem to have a nice feel to it, but the game mechanics are a bit cumbersome. In truth so is the MMORPG, but we never see the back end so it seems to go smoothly for us. I can only make a guess that the game was not doing what Paragon Studios wanted it to do. So my assumption is they let the licensing fall through.

I do think Eden Studios has a good RPG system, but it is not level based and that was one of the challenges was adding a level system to it. They were also shoe-horning in the powers system, inspirations, endurance, recharge, etc ... into the existing Eden Unisystem.


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Tristat? I miss those massive die rolls...
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Used to play BESM Tri-stat myself. Did they ever do a Silver Age Sentinels D20 version? BESM D20 wasn't great :/
I've got the Ghost Dog, Sailor Moon and Demon City Shinjuku tri-stat games, along with BESM.

My Silver Age Sentinels is the d20 version, and not just any d20 version, it's the Stingy Gamers Version.

No maps, few drawings, and no color whatsoever.


 

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There's only ever been two games in my thirty years of tabletopping that have ever gotten superheroes right, and I'm afraid Champions isn't one of them for me.

The first is the venerable Marvel Super Heroes from the now-defunct TSR (now Wizards of the Coast). One chart that handles everything in the game, and it handles every power level from Aunt May to the Beyonder. All percentile based and it scales beautifully. For pure super-heroey stuff, this is your game.

The second is White Wolf's Aberrant game, which has no connection to the World of Darkness, allows you to put huge amounts of customisation into your powers, and runs off a success-based system. And any game that has advanced rules where you can eventually going around making whole galaxies and lifeforms is pretty cool... Be warned, though...this is a R-rated game with everything that implies. But I've seen DC and Marvel heroes converted over with ease. Give it a look.


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There's only ever been two games in my thirty years of tabletopping that have ever gotten superheroes right, and I'm afraid Champions isn't one of them for me.

The first is the venerable Marvel Super Heroes from the now-defunct TSR (now Wizards of the Coast). One chart that handles everything in the game, and it handles every power level from Aunt May to the Beyonder. All percentile based and it scales beautifully. For pure super-heroey stuff, this is your game.

The second is White Wolf's Aberrant game, which has no connection to the World of Darkness, allows you to put huge amounts of customisation into your powers, and runs off a success-based system. And any game that has advanced rules where you can eventually going around making whole galaxies and lifeforms is pretty cool... Be warned, though...this is a R-rated game with everything that implies. But I've seen DC and Marvel heroes converted over with ease. Give it a look.


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So many nights at high school and college playing MSH. It was awesome.

Maybe we should petition WotC to re-release it.