Death of the Paragonian Knights

Godspeed Knights.

The PK is a group that not one person can manage. Even Grae had leaders working with him to keep things running smooth. There was a structure there that just isn't anymore.

Not one person can pick up and lead the Knights unless he/she has no life outside of CoH. It saddens me, the prospect of seeing them go. But I applaud the tough decision it had to have been.

The PK has been around 7 years .. it's a legacy ... it's an era and deserves respect, even in its end.

Leadership...

Any organiztion requires it. When a person, or organization loses their way one must be chosen. PKs administrator would have to be willing to grow, listen and understand their rosters desires to function at the capacity it did. In the short time I have been on virtue my dealings with BDD have been enjoyable. His charisma portrays Inherant leadership.

What some here don't realize is that none of their current leadership apparently desire to carry that torch. Wish them well and move on. They did their job for king and country. As for the "legacy" some speak of... that means little if you are unwilling to take up that mantle.

if any current leaders of PK desire to take up that mantle it appears there is backing for that cause. Let me know if I can help organize such an undertaking.

I didn't think this thread could go to eleven, but I guess it just did.

Wow! Sorry to see the Paragonian Knights go, but all good things eventually end. Good luck to all those remaining PK players that'll be staying in the game.

Take care my beloved PK I will miss you dearly along with other members of the Legion of Freedom who can not post their goodbyes.

Sorry to see things worked out this way BDD PK will be missed.

Good luck to all the dedicated and experienced players who made up this fine group.

If any are looking for a new home, the Justice Corps. is always welcoming new members. We are not a dedicated RP group but we are RP-friendly and have a solid, very active group of friendly folks.

http://justicecorps.guildportal.com

Wow... I am very sad to see the PK break up. May you all find new homes you can be happy with in Paragon City.

All the people who have been saying that someone should pick up the mantle, well, I have to say read the reasoning given better.

1) They said that Grae left over a year ago and have tried to keep it going

2) The group has become very inactive

That being said, is it sad that they are closing their doors? Yes. Is it the right thing to do, well, their current leadreship thinks so, and that tough choice I respect. Will they be missed, yes and no.

They will become like a lot of the groups who used to be around and highly visible. Missed to some extent, and remembered fondly. I look at how groups like the Winter Knights, The Angry Angels, and others have either seemed to have disappeared or completely disbanded. I look at other groups such as Hero Dawn, The American Legion, The Justice Girls, have come in behind and picked up the slack and become very active and large.

The Paragonian Knights will live on in the hearts and minds of many

CoH has changed drastically since the introduction of supergroups and quite frankly, they've been left behind. SGs used to be a center for socializing, an easy form of travel around the city, base raids and much more. Socializing and team organizing is much easier on global channels. Travel is easier than ever with the unified rail/ferry systems and a plethora of TP powers. Base raids and even just PVP in general has been all but abandoned.

Unless the devs do something to make being an active member of a supergroup desirable again, I think we'll continue to see supergroups overall declining.

Supergroups should be a showcase for this game, being able to found your own "Justice League" level supergroup should be a huge feature, now its just empty bases.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying ALL SGs are falling by the wayside, I'm sure there are some that are currently going strong and new SGs will continue to flourish everyday. I'm merely pointing out that the devs have allowed a once great system to stagnate.

Some good points, Lightslinger. I know that my partner and I have ceased joining supergroups at all, having replaced their function entirely with one or more global channels. We have a personal SG for each side, with nobody in it except our characters. Storage, teleporters, and crafting is all we use it for.

There are active SGs, and there are inactive SGs. I've been kicked out of both because higher-ups decided that they were leaving the game, and wanted to take the name, the base, the prestige, the base inventory, and everything they could with them. I don't have a dog in this fight. I'll be momentarily sad to see a great SG shut its doors.

But I can't help but wonder if there are existing players that are getting the boot just because some higher-ups decided that they were going to take their ball home with them. Then again, I've seen AC's big PK proposal to rejuvenate the franchise, too. And while it's a worthy attempt, if the old SG shut down because one player left the game...is it a good idea to build a new one around the mythology of that same character?

Meh. Either way, good luck and godspeed to Knights, past, present, and future. Best wishes, and thanks for the good times.

When it comes down to it, the point of SGs, guilds, any of that, is to meet new people and have fun playing together. After a time, if you take the SG, the guild, the whatever away....you still have your friends and you still have fun playing together. I doubt anyone still active is going to walk away from the people they met who are staying just because the SG as such is going away. Sometimes its best to let projects be shut down gracefully than have the last thing remembered be a pale, dying imitation.

Oddly, this seems the norm for almost any group in an online game. Members join the group, then leave, or become inactive, or quit the game completely. Sometimes, like in the case of the Knights as mentioned before, a high profile member of the group leaves. Most often, it's a leader.
I may not be a member, or even a high profile member of the game. The mantle of the Paragonian Knights may be fading into obscurity, it doesn't mean that the members of the group are not still going to exist. In a way, this is the start of a new chapter in their heroes lives. It also gives other groups a chance to shine in the darkness where before they may have been overshadowed by a more popular group.

If anyone would like to have it...

For Honor - Music for The Paragonian Knights

R.I.P. Knights. I'll always remember you for what you were, not for what you've become.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtKdCcUCmVY

I'm really sorry that the Paragonian Knights are calling it quits but the fact is that it happened due to inactivity, not because Grae Knight left.

I was a member until about two months ago and I left because I was usually the only one logged on, with the occasional member maybe keeping me company on the roster. And the most people I ever saw logged into the private channel? A whopping 3.

But it's not anyone's fault that it folded due to inactivity, it's just something that happens to every SG eventually. I feel this game tends to suffer it more often due to the fact that since it's so Alt-friendly, people usually don't spend alot of time on their SG'd toons. I think that maybe when you join an SG with one character it should give you the option to include every existing toon in the server as well.

Sorry to hear about the Knights, best of luck to you all.

I am sorry to hear of the PK's dissolution. I remember them when I started playing over three years ago.. I played alongside many of their members and had very nice conversations with them. So I salute the Knights. My best wishes for you all both those who remain here, and those who have moved on into life's other adventures.