idea for new badge - Master of Abandoned Sewer Trial
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Posted on: 2011-01-31 22:49 in Badges and Gladiators
Yeah I'd agree this trial is one of the more "must work as a coordinated team" deals in the game. I've been on several of these that were less than enjoyable because people weren't paying attention.
As far as having a Master badge for it I'm sure it would be doable by a few teams of experienced badgers/oldtimers, but you could pretty much forget any random PUG from doing it. Random PUGs usually barely manage to even -finish- that trial much less manage to do it without any deaths. *shrugs*
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It's not too hard with good team. Sounds good. When I done that at first time we had plenty of time left when completed. Almost 20 seconds 
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I almost exclusively run with PuG's, including taskforces/trials, and Master of.... attempts. I find most people want to finish what they start, but there are always the few that think they know better than anyone else that cause the rest of the team to be miserable (I am sure I have been that guy to a few people 
) I believe it always just a learning curve..i.e. I recruited and attempted 8-9 MoLGTF's before getting the badge, always learned a little something during every attempt.
What does this have to do with topic you say...I dont know....O.O
Trials have no Mo associated with them. I, for one, would like to keep them that way.
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Originally Posted by NightSable
Hey all, I think I have identified a badge that is actually needed and would be well deserved. I am proposing a Master of the Abandoned Sewer Trial.
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You should have been at the Justice tanker tuesday several months ago that while there were many deaths was successful running this trial.
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Me, too.
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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
Trials have no Mo associated with them. I, for one, would like to keep them that way.
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The only Master of Abandoned Sewer Trial I would ever want to see is one in the new style of Master of badges. Just no to requiring 0 defeats and no temp powers for the badge. I would like to see all badges with Master of badges to be modified to the new system. Do these tasks to get badges and finally Master of badge. It would require modifying the TFs to be more interesting.
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I would rather watch a week long marathon of Galactica 1980 and Highlander 2 then seek a new 0 defeats Mo badge.
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I would rather watch a week long marathon of Galactica 1980 and Highlander 2 then seek a new 0 defeats Mo badge.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Why not something hard, like a solid week of non-stop Star Wars Christmas Special without commercials or a solid month of William Shatner singing?
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Why not something hard, like a solid week of non-stop Star Wars Christmas Special without commercials or a solid month of William Shatner singing?
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As to Shatner singing....I've heard worse. Ever listen to David Hasselhoff sing? That's more akin to fingernails on a blackboard.
I would rather watch a non stop week long marathon of Galactica 1980, Highlander 2, Star Trek 5, Star Trek Nemesis (easily the two worst trek films, imo), Knight Rider 2000, Knight Rider 2010, and Leonard Part 6 (bad Cosby movie) then seek a new 0 defeat Mo.
I'd rather watch wet paint dry then see a Trial getting a Mo badge.
The new Mo's of Apex and Tin man.. = YES.
The Old system... Heck no (I'll go over there and watch the paint dry... its more fun)
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Yeah I'd agree this trial is one of the more "must work as a coordinated team" deals in the game. I've been on several of these that were less than enjoyable because people weren't paying attention.
As far as having a Master badge for it I'm sure it would be doable by a few teams of experienced badgers/oldtimers, but you could pretty much forget any random PUG from doing it. Random PUGs usually barely manage to even -finish- that trial much less manage to do it without any deaths. *shrugs* |
The only problem is there is always that ONE idiot that decided to form a PUG and thinks it would be so cool to go for a Master Of Badge. I had this the other day on one of my Statesman TF runs for the Notice of the well. Leader has a so-so team of ATs thrown together with a Tank that will need heals to stay alive against Lord Recluse, no really great healing set to accomplish that and HE decided to make it a MoSTF. So now we lose all temp powers and then HE dies in the very first mission. SIGH
Now we get to go through the entire TF with no temps.. including my vet Reward Mission teleporter which would have come in handy on mission 2 when we had to go to PI and chase Doc Aeon into the future.
Not saying its a bad idea just nothing I care about one way or the other. I have been on a few Master of runs and frankly they tend to throw me off my normal game. I get so se;f conscience about doing the wrong thing and screwing up the run I start getting too careful and then half the time that gets me killed. I've heard others comment that they hate them because they are too stressful as well. Plus there is the whole little game plan someof these leaders come up with to succeed that turns a fun TF into a piece of boring crap. I did one MoLRSF run with my SoA Crab. She has hit points like a scrapper, Defense most tanks would envy AND her toggles actually increase the defense of those around her. So where does the Brute have me and most of the rest of the team while he and the other Brute run around destroying things inj mission one? HIDING in one of the building so none of us "SCREW IT UP AND DIE" Yeah there's a badge I can treasue. "I hid my way to a MoLRSF and all I got was this lousy t-shirt err Badge"
If it comes to pass enjoy your attempts .. My philosophy is .. why do I need to run any TF/SF that way just to earn another badge. I have done it normally and already got all the other badges I can from it except the MO and the last time I checked no one said you had to earn every badge they have LOL
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Stop bringing the Champions Online gaming experience into this thread and stay on topic, Snow Globe.
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Originally Posted by Lady Arete
I'd rather watch wet paint dry then see a Trial getting a Mo badge.
The new Mo's of Apex and Tin man.. = YES. The Old system... Heck no (I'll go over there and watch the paint dry... its more fun) |
Basically agrees with Lady's assessment. Grabs a bag of popcorn, turns chair to the wall and watches paint SLOOOOOOOOWLY Dry.
I think one of the things that always ticked me off with the NO Temp powers things was.. HEY I worked to earn those! Doesn't matter if its a mission related one where I actually had to complete a mission and click some glowie to get it, a Vet reward I EARNED by being in game long enough, or a Day Job one I earned by camping out in various loations. Not to mention the recipes for them that now that drop like flies. No matter how I obtained them I personally had to DO something to have them in my tray. While some collect dust others come in very handy.
Do any MO run and you just lost you Vet reward Mission teleporter.. On this weeks WTF that means using the only TEMP power they allow and taking the Ouro Portal to get to the mission in PI. Forget any temps from missions including the safeguards so plan on battling the Arachnos flier from the ground if you travel power wasn't fly cause all your Jet Packs are gone. Tanks a little weak and needs to do that whole Fly above Recluse and taunt him? His taunt better be good cause unless he has some sort of ranged powers forget him using a Vet reward Blackwand or Nemesis Staff to further hold LR's attention. Oh and did your Tank take fly as a travel power? If not he doesn't have a raptor pack to use to hover high above Recluse anymore. Hope you didn't want to get anywhere TOO fast because Ninja Run along with your Vet reward Prestige Sprints just disappeared too.
Zero deaths is always a possibility MO run or not. I did an All VEAT ITF a while back.. we had so much defense and so much damage it was hillarious how easy it went. Romi went down 4 times faster than I have ever seen before and we finished with zero deaths in under an hour... and this was NOT a speed run we killed everything that we saw and we LOOKED hard.
But taking away temps is just silly. the new system they use for Tin Mage and Apex is much nicer and I agree all the TFs that offer MO badges should be fixed so they award in a similar fashion.
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The Prestige sprints are still there - they aren't temps but yes all it needs is a bit of lag and you can be dead without realising you could be in any sort of trouble.
Don't forget also the temps granted in the final mish to take the hydra down.
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I would rather fight an army of 50 Kronos Titans that have Arachnos Flyer air support using my weakest character then seek a new 0 defeat Master Badge.
Hey all, I think I have identified a badge that is actually needed and would be well deserved. I am proposing a Master of the Abandoned Sewer Trial. It should have an image for an ear, because this is actually an easy trial if people would just pay attention and listen. The problem is quite often people do not. Because you have to follow instructions, it is not truly dependent on build or IOs like the other trials.
After doing this trial tonight and failing because 3 people could not follow simple instructions, like put away the pets because they kill gen pods, or "hey, once again, dont kill the gen pods until ready, or hey braniac, you cant shoot the hydra head until the gen pods are down, etc...", it became clear that getting team to listen and having zero deaths in the 90 minutes is actually worthy of recognition beyond the normal badge.
Partial Rant, partial suggestion.