Day job bonus drops?
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Quote:
Depends on the thingy. These days, AMerits would be my answer for most stuff, but definitely not for Purples, and probably not even for PvPs. I've come to regard each AMerit as essentially being equal to ~75M Inf, which provides a decent baseline from which to make comparisons.|
Originally Posted by peterpeter
Bottom line: If there's a thingy I want, what's the best way to get it? Maybe we can put our heads together and come up with an answer to that deceptively simple question? |
EDIT: for dumbness
Hmm, something like:
I. Random Drops
A. Mob Defeats (Outside AE)
1. Minions/Lts
a. influence
b. prestige (if enabled)
c. inspiration
d. TO/DO/SO
e. Pool A recipe
f. Pool E (costume) recipe
g. Temp Power recipe
h. Tips Mission
i. Incarnate shard (if >=50)
j. Vanguard Merit (if member of Vanguard and mob is Rikti)
k. Purple recipe (if >= 47)
2. Bosses (same as Minions/Lts, plus)
a. Random Rare recipe
B. Mission Complete ...
etc.
I'm sure I missed a few things and goodness knows I wouldn't have the patience to put the whole list together, but yes, I think that sort of thing would be a very good source of information as a guide or a wiki article.
So who wants to organize it? <glances at Peter hopefully>
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a *real* useful invention. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...t-sarcasm.html
This will be a thread with links back to it.
Many market rants seem to involve the premise that the Market is the ONLY way to acquire certain things. Having a list of ways to avoid the Market would be a nice thing to be able to link to.
Maybe it would be more useful to sort it by the stuff rather than the method.
1. TO/DO/SO: random drops, vendors. A note about Yin in Faultline. A warning that contacts are money-grubbing &*!%!#s. Can sometimes buy dirt cheap on the market, but supply is very low. Can you get them with tickets?
2. Common IOs: random recipe and salvage drops, poor use of tickets and merits, brief mention of crafting badges. Mostly obtained on market, where pre-crafted are often cheaper than crafting your own.
3. Salvage: random drops, AE tickets, brainstorms, what else? Market.
4. Set IOs: random drops, AE tickets, merits, a-merits, market. A note on the different pools for random rolls.
5. Purples: random drops (high level mobs only), a-merits, market.
6. PVP IOs: random drops in PVP only (something about the timer, etc). A-merits. The market. Off-market sales for 2B+.
Oh, and I forgot the HOs, and the Titan things, and whatever that other one is. And probably some other things. Oh, inspirations. Forgot about those. You know, I don't think I've ever done the kora fruit mission? And the special event stuff, like the winters gift enhancements and the halloween salvage. Costume bits and temp powers. So much stuff!
Avatar: "Cheeky Jack O Lantern" by dimarie
Quote:
I think you might be referring to the Hydra Enhancements.
|
Originally Posted by peterpeter
Oh, and I forgot the HOs, and the Titan things, and whatever that other one is.
|
Leader of Legion of Valor/Fallen Legion (Victory server)
http://legionofvalor.guildportal.com / http://fallenlegion.guildportal.com
StainedGlassScarlet - L50 Spines/Inv Scrapper | Badges: 1,396
Avatar detail taken from full-size piece by Douglas Shuler here
Quote:
Common IO recipes can be bought for inf from the tables.|
2. Common IOs: random recipe and salvage drops, poor use of tickets and merits, brief mention of crafting badges. 3. Salvage |
Salvage [terrible rates, admittedly] can be bought for Alignment Merits.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
Quote:
Yup. Those don't come up much anymore. May not be worth including, in the interests of making a guide that's readable, rather than comprehensive.
|
Originally Posted by Eric Nelson
I think you might be referring to the Hydra Enhancements.
|
Avatar: "Cheeky Jack O Lantern" by dimarie
Quote:
And mission complete.|
Originally Posted by peterpeter
Maybe it would be more useful to sort it by the stuff rather than the method.
1. TO/DO/SO: random drops, vendors. |
Quote:
| A note about Yin in Faultline. A warning that contacts are money-grubbing &*!%!#s. Can sometimes buy dirt cheap on the market, but supply is very low. Can you get them with tickets? |
My postings to this forum are not to be used as data in any research study without my express written consent.
Boredom Strikes.. I'll throw together part of a draft someone else can continue...
Quote:
|
Can I Have your Stuff? A Guide to Getting Stuff First, this isn't a guide to asking people for their stuff, that's too easy and obvious. This is a guide to acquiring Other stuff. I'll start with the easy stuff. Inspirations Inspirations are drops from mobs. They can also be purchased from nearly any contact. Special Inspirations Essence of the Earth: these come from the Devoured Earth monsters located on Monster Isle-Peregrine Island, the Hive, or the Abyss Ambrosia: these come from all the devoured earth in the Eden Trial. All inspirations can be bought on the market. |
Quote:
Humph. Quoting doesn't quote quotes. Thanks for getting the ball rolling. I'm imagining something with a little more structure in the formatting, maybe like this:|
Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
Boredom Strikes.. I'll throw together part of a draft someone else can continue...
|
Inspirations
Drops: Any mob which gives XP has a chance of dropping an inspiration. Higher ranking enemies (lieutenants, bosses, etc) are more likely to drop larger inspirations.
Vendors taking Inf: Only the smallest inspirations can be bought. They are available from contacts, nurses in hospitals, and some bartenders in Pocket D. The arenas sell all small inspirations except awakens. Bases can be equipped with a Tree of Wonder or an Auto-Doc which sells inspirations.
AE Tickets: Random medium inspirations cost 20 tickets. Random large inspirations cost 100 tickets.
Reward Merits: Any large inspiration costs 1 reward merit.
Alignment Merits: Inspirations cannot be purchased with alignment merits.
Market: all inspirations are available on the market
Crafting: any three inspirations of the same size and type can be converted into one inspiration of the same size but a different type.
Other: Some day job powers grant a large inspiration upon completion of a mission.
Essence of the Earth: only dropped by Devoured Earth monsters located on Monster Isle-Peregrine Island, the Hive, or the Abyss
Ambrosia: dropped by devoured earth in the Eden Trial.
Strength of Will: Bought in Sirens Call with bounty earnings.
Presents: found during the Winter Event by clicking on presents.
... Formatting could be better
Avatar: "Cheeky Jack O Lantern" by dimarie
Kora fruit missions will get you one medium inspiration per fruit picked.
As far as enhancements go, I think you forgot about the Crystal Titan Origin Enhancements
Don't forget that SO's also drop on AV defeats. You can get level 1 SOs that way.
"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.
Quote:
No, he covered them in both his posts above on the subject. |
Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
As far as enhancements go, I think you forgot about the Crystal Titan Origin Enhancements
|
Leader of Legion of Valor/Fallen Legion (Victory server)
http://legionofvalor.guildportal.com / http://fallenlegion.guildportal.com
StainedGlassScarlet - L50 Spines/Inv Scrapper | Badges: 1,396
Avatar detail taken from full-size piece by Douglas Shuler here
But I did forget the Kora fruit. I think I'm going to put this guide on ParagonWiki, after double xp weekend. But I'll preview pieces of it here first, so people can point out things like Kora fruit that I might otherwise forget. Thanks for the help.
Avatar: "Cheeky Jack O Lantern" by dimarie
And, tossing in a reference to the red-headed stepchild of the game...
You can get medium inspirations and SO's for turning in PvP bounty in Siren's Call. 
Good Luck with the guide Peter - while a very worthwhile endeavour, it
seems a little bit like trying to herd cats to me... 
Cheers,
4
I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
Ok, I've tossed it up on ParagonWiki. I think the inspiration piece is in decent shape. Room for improvement of course. And so much more to do... It wasn't until I started assembling the table of contents that I realized how much I had bitten off. Feel free to jump in!
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/How_To_Get_Stuff
Avatar: "Cheeky Jack O Lantern" by dimarie
No, I don't have a guide, but I think there should be one. I've started losing track of all the different ways of getting stuff.
Am I leaving some out? Some things are available only one way, some things can be gotten in different ways. Prices vary. I had a good handle on it until this past fall, when I started spending a lot less time in game. Now I find it a bit overwhelming.
Bottom line: If there's a thingy I want, what's the best way to get it?
Maybe we can put our heads together and come up with an answer to that deceptively simple question?
Avatar: "Cheeky Jack O Lantern" by dimarie