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Originally Posted by Negami View Post
I laugh at people who say stuff like this, everyday of 2xp I logged on and either assembled an 8 man team of kill everything awesome or got picked up for one in about 5 minutes and I'm not even on the west coast.
Ran my Soldier from 18-48 and a brute from 1-36 and still took time to run two of hami raids on Sunday and an ITF on a lvl 50 MM

/search is your friend
I laugh at people who say stuff like this, because obviously everyone is a team forming genius who enjoys forming their own teams all the time regardless of what level they are and never, ever want to join people who already have a team going.


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I laugh at people who say stuff like this, because obviously everyone is a team forming genius who enjoys forming their own teams all the time regardless of what level they are and never, ever want to join people who already have a team going.
I usually only form a team out of desperation. Half the time I don't have luck. (Had plenty of luck during 2xp, mostly because I focused on sewer teams.) But I'm patient enough to wait around for fifteen minutes for a reply, at least.

However, I do prefer just joining an existing team. It's just my play style, like how I prefer being a damage dealer or a heavily support based Defender: I'd rather someone tell me who to shoot or to keep my attention on the team's buffs and health then to try and keep a group working efficiently. Too much work.

And that being said, anyone who obsesses over getting an 8-man going loses out, in my opinion. (Read: Ignore it if you disagree.) Some of my favorite CoH moments have been on 4-man teams. Or duo-ing. Especially if it's a duo that can handle the mobs of a 3- or 4-man team. Bad ***.

As such, I've never had too much trouble getting a group together. There always seems to be someone around willing to tag along and I'm rarely disappointed. With the exception of trying to run a TF. I've never successfully led a TF. (Though I haven't really tried since getting my new ISP, so getting DCed isn't an issue any more...)


 

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Originally Posted by IAmTheRad View Post
Double XP doesn't count. You know people will be playing then.
Couldn't find anyone during double XP weekend either. I'm actually hesitant to make a villain again because it's so empty now.


 

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Sorry, that's life.

If you're keeping track at home:

Claiming Redside will die off before Going Rogue = Doomcrier
Claiming Redside died off after Going Rogue = "That's Life".


 

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Couldn't find anyone during double XP weekend either. I'm actually hesitant to make a villain again because it's so empty now.
Really? 'Cause a quick search usually pulls up a half dozen available people for me, at least.

Maybe it's just the time of day. I generally play during the middle of the day or late at night. I rarely have trouble finding someone to play with, probably because everyone else is bored out of their minds and has nothing to do. My bet is that when the server is packed, everyone is off on teams already... Except us stragglers.


 

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Originally Posted by Kiana Wolf View Post
Really? 'Cause a quick search usually pulls up a half dozen available people for me, at least.

Maybe it's just the time of day. I generally play during the middle of the day or late at night. I rarely have trouble finding someone to play with, probably because everyone else is bored out of their minds and has nothing to do. My bet is that when the server is packed, everyone is off on teams already... Except us stragglers.
I've no desire to lead teams and would rather just not play when faced with that. Some people simply dislike or are not good at team leading. Aside from that I have no idea what all the new colors for names are. Purple, orange, blue, aquamarine.


 

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I've no desire to lead teams and would rather just not play when faced with that. Some people simply dislike or are not good at team leading. Aside from that I have no idea what all the new colors for names are. Purple, orange, blue, aquamarine.
To each their own. I like smacking around villains when no one else is around. Makes me feel needed.


 

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Over my years in this game, ive seen a lot of ppl saying they have issue finding a team. And those same ppl are skerd to hold a star.

Fine, I too, have no desire to lead sometime. But there is Calling a faction empty, and there is lack of leadership due to lazynes or shyness.

If you start a team, broadcast you are lfm, you normaly find some takers. and i will admit, sometime the same "shyness" is contagious. Sometime you do have to open the search window, and send tell to ppl, the same ppl that are in zone, and do see broadcast , but too shy to reply. Those same ppl will often reply, by a "sure" ill join. And note, this is an issue for both faction.

Last week end, i was rolling a lvl30ish corr, and filled my team in 5min, after 4 missions, noone dropped, and we were going strong.


All that to say, the issue is about Shyness and lazyness, or even maybe, lack of motivation, or fear of a pug team. Now if you have a Decent population with those issues, and that on both side (i see those issues both sides), but one side do have more population. The faction that have less population will feel the difference.

In My opinion, its about ppl tha have the guts to say, OK -censored- , I want to have fun, and even if some -censored- might curse me, and/or drop team, rage quit or whatever, i will take the risk , and form something.

It was my call, a long time ago, even tho, i totaly felt innadequate to lead anything, with a huge "handicap" beeing my poor english (and back then my lack of knowledge of the game)...

But if I look at it now, its a night and day experience.

Anyways, back to my point. Lets consider the lack of leadership , overall... Lets take Hami raids as a test case. There is a lot more HAmi raid, blue side, offcourse there is more population willing to raid, but there is also more "leaders", if one cant show up, hami is not cancelled, someone else take over. We cant say the same for red side, there is like 2 leader, for red hami, and 2 or 3 , maybe 4 other ppl that will risk to lead (and they actualy do good) to lead from time to time.

conclusion :
- Yes there is difference in population.
- stepping forward and say I will lead, is a plague, on both sides
- NO red side is not dead or empty.

Im just saying,please, pick other other words to describe red side.


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Originally Posted by Pinny View Post
I laugh at people who say stuff like this, because obviously everyone is a team forming genius who enjoys forming their own teams all the time regardless of what level they are and never, ever want to join people who already have a team going.
I laugh at people who say stuff like this because they seem incapable of using /search to find a team in progress and asking if they can join. It also boggles my mind that people act like forming a team is rocket science, invite people run missions, adjust difficulty accordingly, look for specific ATs if you feel you are lacking in something.

If you're entire tactic for finding a team is twiddling your thumbs and waiting for someone to say something in broadcast or blind invite you, unsurprisingly it's going to seem "dead." If you aren't willing to put forth the slightest of effort to find a team I have no sympathy.


 

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Originally Posted by xeaon View Post
- NO red side is not dead or empty.

Im just saying,please, pick other other words to describe red side.
I prefer 'sparse'. It isn't that people aren't around red side, it's just that there any spots they really form groups and stand around.

Just earlier today I was playing red side and had a few people fly past me. And I was only on long enough to do the costume slot mission.


 

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Originally Posted by xeaon View Post
Over my years in this game, ive seen a lot of ppl saying they have issue finding a team. And those same ppl are skerd to hold a star.

Fine, I too, have no desire to lead sometime. But there is Calling a faction empty, and there is lack of leadership due to lazynes or shyness.

If you start a team, broadcast you are lfm, you normaly find some takers. and i will admit, sometime the same "shyness" is contagious. Sometime you do have to open the search window, and send tell to ppl, the same ppl that are in zone, and do see broadcast , but too shy to reply. Those same ppl will often reply, by a "sure" ill join. And note, this is an issue for both faction.

Last week end, i was rolling a lvl30ish corr, and filled my team in 5min, after 4 missions, noone dropped, and we were going strong.


All that to say, the issue is about Shyness and lazyness, or even maybe, lack of motivation, or fear of a pug team. Now if you have a Decent population with those issues, and that on both side (i see those issues both sides), but one side do have more population. The faction that have less population will feel the difference.

In My opinion, its about ppl tha have the guts to say, OK -censored- , I want to have fun, and even if some -censored- might curse me, and/or drop team, rage quit or whatever, i will take the risk , and form something.

It was my call, a long time ago, even tho, i totaly felt innadequate to lead anything, with a huge "handicap" beeing my poor english (and back then my lack of knowledge of the game)...

But if I look at it now, its a night and day experience.

Anyways, back to my point. Lets consider the lack of leadership , overall... Lets take Hami raids as a test case. There is a lot more HAmi raid, blue side, offcourse there is more population willing to raid, but there is also more "leaders", if one cant show up, hami is not cancelled, someone else take over. We cant say the same for red side, there is like 2 leader, for red hami, and 2 or 3 , maybe 4 other ppl that will risk to lead (and they actualy do good) to lead from time to time.

conclusion :
- Yes there is difference in population.
- stepping forward and say I will lead, is a plague, on both sides
- NO red side is not dead or empty.

Im just saying,please, pick other other words to describe red side.
Do you prefer deceased?


 

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I desperately want to play my widow, but the only time she groups is when I portal her to praet.

Red Side is dead. I have attempted starting teams, finding teams.

Heck I have now moved all of my red side toons over to the blue side, by either tipping them or starting them over in praet.

Sad though because the villain side has so much flare.


 

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Originally Posted by Nyx View Post
I desperately want to play my widow, but the only time she groups is when I portal her to praet.

Red Side is dead. I have attempted starting teams, finding teams.

Heck I have now moved all of my red side toons over to the blue side, by either tipping them or starting them over in praet.

Sad though because the villain side has so much flare.
You know, I'm not all that bright, but it seems to me that if everyone goes "Oh noes! Red side is dead!" and runs to blue... They are in effect beating a dying man instead of getting him to a hospital.

Instead of all of the complaining, I don't know, get your friends together and all decide to spend a week playing red side only. And not just together, but spread out a little. Encourage some growth.


 

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Redside is not dead. Running to join blue side from being red is not the solution. My Warshade ran from red to join blue, and will stay Red unless I have a good RP reason to be redeemed.

Trust me, the 'fix' is to play red side. Not to whine and complain. Learn /search and invite people to join (preferably by sending a tell first). The worst they can do is decline an invite.


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Originally Posted by Dr_Catastrophe View Post
The little bulbs next to Virtue on the server select list are always yellow or red, but I barely see anyone wandering around in the Rogue Isles, where is everyone?
I posted a similar thread a few months ago. I would go into lvl 30 or less zones, and use the search function, and find 10 players or less, none looking to team. And call me crazy, but if someone has a flag up that they don't want to team, and they don't have any note contradicting that, I don't PM them about joining a team.

And I was basically told I was wrong and there were players all over the place. So I went back to Praetoria.

Anyway, I have a few theories from my experience.
-With all the Incarnate silliness, I still think a lot of players are dusting off their 50's to farm for that crap.
-A lot of players are still starting out in Praetoria then rushing through the content, presumably to go blueside.
-Atlas has sewer teams, but KR is dead. Steel Canyon used to be a hotspot, but that's shifted to Talos because of players running Tip missions.
-Same thing with Cap, what activity there is seems to have shifted to Sharkhead for Tip missions.
-Mercy and Oakes have always been dead. Same with Nerva. I haven't been in Martial or Grandville much over the past few months.
-Normally I don't go to the RWZ or Cimerora, can't help you there.
-And as I'm told for whatever ungodly reason, a -lot- of players just stay on hide all the time. *shrug*


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good luck D.B.B.

 

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Emgro's mini-guide to attempting a team Redside during off hours.

Step 1: Watch Broadcast for 5-10 minutes, looking for the following:
People looking for a team
Teams recruiting
People looking for help with a mission
Lvl 50s looking for a mayhem

Step 2: Assuming you can't join someone else's during the wait, you should have a basic idea of what's going on activity-wise. This is when you start recruiting.

Ways to recruit:
Broadcast that your team is LFM and PST for invite.
Move to an adjacent (in terms of level range) zone and broadcast again.
Recruit anyone who was LFT in broadcast.
Open the Find menu and look for anyone in a decent level range who is flagged as looking for any team or a mission team. Send them a polite tell asking if they'd like to join a team.

Is my Redside experience at 2PM EST (I work very early, so get off early too) a constant string of 8-man steamrollers? No, but I have yet to be unable to ring up three or four people for a decent start, and manage to keep recruiting between missions to replace losses and increase team size.

Sure, Redside might be dead, but I like it anyway.


 

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Originally Posted by Emgro View Post
Emgro's mini-guide to attempting a team Redside during off hours.

Step 1: Watch Broadcast for 5-10 minutes, looking for the following:
People looking for a team
Teams recruiting
People looking for help with a mission
Lvl 50s looking for a mayhem

Step 2: Assuming you can't join someone else's during the wait, you should have a basic idea of what's going on activity-wise. This is when you start recruiting.

Ways to recruit:
Broadcast that your team is LFM and PST for invite.
Move to an adjacent (in terms of level range) zone and broadcast again.
Recruit anyone who was LFT in broadcast.
Open the Find menu and look for anyone in a decent level range who is flagged as looking for any team or a mission team. Send them a polite tell asking if they'd like to join a team.

Is my Redside experience at 2PM EST (I work very early, so get off early too) a constant string of 8-man steamrollers? No, but I have yet to be unable to ring up three or four people for a decent start, and manage to keep recruiting between missions to replace losses and increase team size.

Sure, Redside might be dead, but I like it anyway.
My widow watched broadcast for an hour yesterday in Poakes and saw the following to get a basic idea of what was going on:


 

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Originally Posted by Kiana Wolf View Post
You know, I'm not all that bright, but it seems to me that if everyone goes "Oh noes! Red side is dead!" and runs to blue... They are in effect beating a dying man instead of getting him to a hospital.

Instead of all of the complaining, I don't know, get your friends together and all decide to spend a week playing red side only. And not just together, but spread out a little. Encourage some growth.
Im not disagreeing with you. But if no ones around, no one would know that the man was dying. I make jest of course.

I like Red. I have always liked red in many cases more than blue. But I enjoy teaming more than either side, so you go where you get the most bang for your buck


 

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Im not disagreeing with you. But if no ones around, no one would know that the man was dying. I make jest of course.

I like Red. I have always liked red in many cases more than blue. But I enjoy teaming more than either side, so you go where you get the most bang for your buck
Quite, as Xeaon said, it's prolly mostly star fear [I have, I admit it ].

Not really seeing the constant lrsf pugs that are going on blueside, but then again, that could just be more so that lrsf is different in its difficulty.


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