Remember the Futurama episode "Jurassic Bark"?


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You know, the one that ends with Fry's dog waiting in loyally for Fry to return. Remember how it really made you choke up, and if you have pets you maybe went and hugged them?

Well, prepare yourself for that again.


 

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those stories are not uncommon, ever heard of hachiko? a japanese akita that used to go to shibuya's train station for 9 years after his master's death. they put up a statue to him and its a popular tourist attraction. pops up in a few video games as well.

interesting thing is his owner only owned him for a year, but he kept coming for the rest of his life(he lived to 11)


 

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You know, the one that ends with Fry's dog waiting in loyally for Fry to return. Remember how it really made you choke up, and if you have pets you maybe went and hugged them?

Well, prepare yourself for that again.

Yeah I saw that, very touching.

Also I disagree that Bender's Big Score contradicts what Jurassic Bark showed of the dog's fate, since Fry 2 stayed in the past and spent time with the dog as well as had his job with Leelu, then left for years to find and recapture Leelu, only to come back and be blasted by Bender and realize he was Lars after all. The Professor did state that the dog was fossilized at the moment of death, so it couldn't have died at the end of Jurassic Bark as the dog laid down and closed its eyes to sleep, but was fossilized while standing on all fours.


 

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You know, the one that ends with Fry's dog waiting in loyally for Fry to return.
I cry every time I see that episode.


 

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those stories are not uncommon, ever heard of hachiko? a japanese akita that used to go to shibuya's train station for 9 years after his master's death. they put up a statue to him and its a popular tourist attraction.
I saw that statue a few years ago when I visited Shibuya. Cool story.

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Also I disagree that Bender's Big Score contradicts what Jurassic Bark showed of the dog's fate, since Fry 2 stayed in the past and spent time with the dog as well as had his job with Leelu, then left for years to find and recapture Leelu, only to come back and be blasted by Bender and realize he was Lars after all. The Professor did state that the dog was fossilized at the moment of death, so it couldn't have died at the end of Jurassic Bark as the dog laid down and closed its eyes to sleep, but was fossilized while standing on all fours.
Well didn't Hermes dig up "another" one of Fry's fossilized dogs in one of the newer eps? I think it was the one where they played around with the evolution vs creationism debate when the Professor became a god to a world of robots which quickly evolved from nanites to "humanoid" robots.

I think they probably threw that in because they know they've kind of played around the whole history of Fry's dog so much that they're just having fun with it now.


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I saw that statue a few years ago when I visited Shibuya. Cool story.



Well didn't Hermes dig up "another" one of Fry's fossilized dogs in one of the newer eps? I think it was the one where they played around with the evolution vs creationism debate when the Professor became a god to a world of robots which quickly evolved from nanites to "humanoid" robots.

I think they probably threw that in because they know they've kind of played around the whole history of Fry's dog so much that they're just having fun with it now.
Wasn't another dog, just tongue in cheek joke at Jurassic Bark. Still, the dog is fossilized while standing on all fours and the Professor confirmed that the dog was fossilized at time of death so his laying down at the end of Jurassic Bark wasn't the end for the dog. Also in Bender's Big Score when Fry 2 returns from being at sea, he pets the dog who then lays down in that position we see at the end of Jurassic Bark, then the Bender-nator arrives and blasts the building and the dog stands up and looks at the building and ends up fossilized.

So to me it seems that indeed Fry's usage of the time code to return to the past and then using it again to diverge himself via paradox was at least a partial fulfillment of the dog's fate. You COULD say that it laid down to die at the end of Jurassic Bark since at that point in the future the time code hadn't been found yet and thus the paradoxes hadn't started but that still contradicts the Professor's assessment of being fossilized at the time of death. Fry 2 however staying in the past and being targeted by the Bender-nator does create the dog's fate of being fossilized at the time of death.

It's kind of like the question regarding Babylon 5: when Delenn chose Sinclair's ship to be captured and they discovered he was Valen reincarnated as a human, would that have happened to any human she chose instead of Sinclair, especially if Sinclair's ship was blown away? OR: would Sinclair being killed before he took Babylon 4 back to the past cause a massive change for the past 1000 years of galactic history?

Given that Sinclair was given a glimpse of the future by that Centauri psychic that showed B5 being blown up and then later on B4 itself he got an even bigger view of that same vision, and then in the season 3 two parter that wrapped up Sinclair's fate we see an alternate timeline where the Shadows are stronger then they should be and B5 gets wiped out, I'd have to go with the theory that if Sinclair did get killed before he took B4 back in time, that we would basically be shafted to put it nicely.

Or simply put, I hate temporal mechanics.


 

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I cry every time I see that episode.
I can't even watch that episode anymore. *sniffles*


 

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Or simply put, I hate temporal mechanics.
Professor: Behold, a time traveling machine.
Bender: Time? I can't go back there!
Professor: Ah, but this machine only goes forward in time. That way you can't accidentally change history or do something disgusting like sleep with your own grandmother.
Fry: I wouldn't want to do that again.


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Professor: Behold, a time traveling machine.
Bender: Time? I can't go back there!
Professor: Ah, but this machine only goes forward in time. That way you can't accidentally change history or do something disgusting like sleep with your own grandmother.
Fry: I wouldn't want to do that again.

How a machine only goes forward and not back is a bit intriguing.

As for sleeping with his grandmother, I suspect that is yet another predestined temporal circle/paradox about Fry, as that is how he ends up with no delta brainwave.


 

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How a machine only goes forward and not back is a bit intriguing.
Actually a "time machine" that only travels forward in time is fairly plausible and almost doable with current technology. When you think about it the sleep chamber Fry got locked into for 1,000 years was a "time machine" of sorts.

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As for sleeping with his grandmother, I suspect that is yet another predestined temporal circle/paradox about Fry, as that is how he ends up with no delta brainwave.
The genius of this show's time travel shenanigans was established even during the first episode. If you rewatch that episode and slow motion it during the scene where Fry is falling backwards into the sleep chamber you'll notice a frame or two where they show Nibbler's shadow hiding under the desk where he (as we learn in a later episode) has just tipped Fry off his chair.


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Actually a "time machine" that only travels forward in time is fairly plausible and almost doable with current technology. When you think about it the sleep chamber Fry got locked into for 1,000 years was a "time machine" of sorts.



The genius of this show's time travel shenanigans was established even during the first episode. If you rewatch that episode and slow motion it during the scene where Fry is falling backwards into the sleep chamber you'll notice a frame or two where they show Nibbler's shadow hiding under the desk where he (as we learn in a later episode) has just tipped Fry off his chair.
Yep, Nibbler is there. Also you can see his shadow towards the end of Green Yonder as they are about to enter the wormhole.

Also there is one thing that I don't think many Futurama fans have realized. Bender STILL has the timecode from Bender's Big Score. He had it recorded in his memory after first using it and yes the time code was blanked along with the obedience virus and 70 terrabytes of his exotic media collection, but at the END Bender had to read the code from the tatoo again so that he could go back and stick the tatoo on Fry. Despite the massive paradox corrections that occurred that ripped open the universe, Bender should still have that time code.

There could be repercussions of that still to come.


 

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I watch it up until just before the end then change DVD's.
That's cheating!


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