What is perma-dom


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I see lots of posts on how to get recharge and talking ABOUT perma-dom, but what does it even mean? You have permenant domination? How does that work? Even if you can get it to recharge, you can't click it until you use hold powers or such a bunch of times right?

Can someone explain the basics to me?


 

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You get enough recharge (bonuses, typically) for Domination to come back in time to stack with itself. Someone else will have to tell you the percentage. Yes, you need to be attacking things to build domination, just like non-perma.


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
Yes, you need to be attacking things to build domination, just like non-perma.
That's not really true. You need to attack to build domination the first time. Once you have dom popped you don't need to attack you can just stand there and hit domination every times it comes up. That one of the great things about perma-dom

To get perma-dom you need a little more then 90% recharge plus Hasten, well that is what I have and I just have perma-dom.


Edit: Also if you're a full Villain and have the power frenzy you don't even need to attack because that builds domination up for you


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Originally Posted by BrokenPrey View Post
That's not really true. You need to attack to build domination the first time. Once you have dom popped you don't need to attack you can just stand there and hit domination every times it comes up. That one of the great things about perma-dom

To get perma-dom you need a little more then 90% recharge plus Hasten, well that is what I have and I just have perma-dom.


Edit: Also if you're a full Villain and have the power frenzy you don't even need to attack because that builds domination up for you
So the key is you CAN hit it over and over without building the bar? Or is that when you're using it against a lot of enemies or tough enemies, it's constantly being built anyway? So that resets the timer? Is that working as intended or likely to be nerfed? What is the real effect of domination anyway? Is it like a giant accuracy buff to hold powers?

Thanks in advance


 

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Originally Posted by Jordan_Yen View Post
So the key is you CAN hit it over and over without building the bar? Or is that when you're using it against a lot of enemies or tough enemies, it's constantly being built anyway? So that resets the timer? Is that working as intended or likely to be nerfed? What is the real effect of domination anyway? Is it like a giant accuracy buff to hold powers?

Thanks in advance
Essentially, if you're *under* Domination, the bar is "filled". It doesn't empty out (and need building up again) until after Domination wears off.

It's probably working as intended, since one of the stated goals of the Dominator revamp a while back was not to mess too much with permaDom characters.

EDIT: The main buff of Domination is that all mezzes are stronger. You know how you need to put two Holds at a time on a Boss before it's held? For a Dominator under Domination, a single Hold mezzes a Boss. There used to be a major damage buff as well, but since the aforementioned Dominator revamp, there's less of a difference between damage in and out of Domination.




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The minimum percentage required for permadom is 70% from global set bonuses, with Hasten 3 slotted with level 50 rech IOs (or 2 lvl 50 rech IOs and a spiritual boost)

You will also need to hit both Hasten and Domination as soon as they're up.


 

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Perma-Dom without Hasten is 125% Global Recharge, IIRC.

Incidentally, Perma-Hasten is only about 110% Global Recharge (which then becomes 180%, which gets you Perma-Dom too.)


 

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I just realized the other day that I have NO dominators. I've fixed that, but that's why I started asking. Very much enjoying my elec/earth assault dom


 

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Originally Posted by Silver Gale View Post
There used to be a major damage buff as well, but since the aforementioned Dominator revamp, there's less of a difference between damage in and out of Domination.
Which is fine, because instead of it being buffed damage, dominators simply have higher base damage


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Perma-dom actually comes at 122.5% global recharge (122.222222222 etc, if you want to be absolutely precise.)


 

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Originally Posted by Jordan_Yen View Post
I just realized the other day that I have NO dominators. I've fixed that, but that's why I started asking. Very much enjoying my elec/earth assault dom
That's because Earth Assault is awesome.

I recently got my Plant/Earth/Fire to permadom. It wasn't even intentional really. I like the sets enough that I didn't really care about hitting permadom. But after i19 I had a full five powers to throw LotGs in, and I started tweaking stuff until I had 96.25% recharge.

Domination, by the way, usually* doubles the magnitude of your mezzes. That means your mag 3 hold that normally only works on lieutenants will now work on bosses too. It also adds extra duration to the mezzes, refills your endurance bar to full, and gives you protection against all status effects and knockback. That means a permadom character doesn't get mezzed, and can mez bosses.

* = There are a few noteable exceptions; sadly most of them are in Earth Assault.


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Perma-dom actually comes at 122.5% global recharge (122.222222222 etc, if you want to be absolutely precise.)
When I figure it I come up with something a little different. I get

130.329832319763% recharge to yield a recharge time for domination of 86.832s


 

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Also, if you will six-slot hasten with lvl recharge IOs and get the recharge alpha enhancement, you can get by with 81% global recharge to reach perma hasten. even less if you're willing to use empowerment stations.

Theoretically, you could reach perma hasten with 5 LotGs, an empowerment buff and a mere 23% more global recharge if you six-slot hasten and take the recharge alpha.


 

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What do you get for total recharge from a 6-slotted Hasten, after ED?


 

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what do you get for total recharge from a 6-slotted hasten, after ed?
~118.1%


 

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what do you get for total recharge from a 6-slotted hasten, after ed?
118.16%


 

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The other major (imo) effect of Domination is status defense of about 9.6 (iirc) to everything. Since Domination can be used even WHEN mezzed (thus often breaking them, unless stacked), this can be a pretty hefty defense against such effects.


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Mids' isn't showing the doubling of magnitude. It shows an increase in duration instead.

Has there been a recent change?


 

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Originally Posted by all_hell View Post
Mids' isn't showing the doubling of magnitude. It shows an increase in duration instead.

Has there been a recent change?
Domination does both. But Mids only reports one effect at a time on the summary screen. Technically while under Domination it will do mag 3 hold + mag 3 hold. This should be correctly reflected on the full details page.


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Domination does both. But Mids only reports one effect at a time on the summary screen. Technically while under Domination it will do mag 3 hold + mag 3 hold. This should be correctly reflected on the full details page.
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