Global Vaults and or Email expansion!
What I had in mind was expanding the vault to a global level of 100 salvage items per account
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You are suggesting that we castrate ourselves where it comes to vault storage. I'm sorry but screw that idea.
I like many others have many characters. On my main account alone I have 80+. Now considering that none of them are below level 5 that means each of my characters has at least 30 vault slots.
That means I have at least 2,400 vault slots.
It's bad enough that the devs destroyed our ability to store salvage in bases, don't make things exponentially worse by destroying our personal vault storage.
or expanding email so you are able to ship 10 items of similar things at once. |
It is a suggested amount, I have 47 50's so I know what I would be loosing out. But to come up with a outrageous amount would get laughed at by the devs (and this post whether it be for the global vault or expanding the email will be tossed out like Pre ED), I'd rather loose a little to gain much more. Unless you have each piece of salvage listed for each toon how long would it take you to hunt down the salvage you would need? You rather add to the price gouging at the market? More than likely you'll say I have billions... I have billions too and I'd like to keep that so I am able to buy the recipes I need for the toons, I surely don't want to spend more on the salvage then the recipes it takes to slot the toon. As far as the SG salvage lockers not all my toons are in the same sgs, or even on the same servers... Sure I'd like to see them expand the lockers, will I ever think they will do it... not really.
So if the number is to low, tell me a number that is reasonable but yet realistic.
Not everyone have 47 50's let alone 80. But I'm sure a lot of people are getting feed up with spending an arm and a leg on salvage.
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Salvage prices.
Little hint 1: place a bid, go play, come back, get salvage. I had crafters on both sides before the merger and that is all I did to keep the SG bins maxed out in IOs. Billions, let alone millions, not required.
Little hint 2: Try looking at all those recipes at lvl50 that "no one" buys. Place 5 inf bid for 10, wait a few seconds, collect the 10 recipes, walk over to store (AP is good spot as example), sell at 5K or more a piece. Repeat. Take profit and buy salvage.
Grand total salvage I have stored on all my toons (including my lowly 26 50's): 0
Salvage is easy to get unless, of course, the OP buys at HAVEITNOW!!!! prices. You don't have to get gouged or spend more than the recipe. Just have patience.
/unsigned to the OP. We have access to an incredible amount of storage already and don't want to see it nerfed (for others since I don't store any salvage and yet keep many bins on blue and red packed with IOs).
Salvage prices.
Little hint 1: place a bid, go play, come back, get salvage. I had crafters on both sides before the merger and that is all I did to keep the SG bins maxed out in IOs. Billions, let alone millions, not required. Little hint 2: Try looking at all those recipes at lvl50 that "no one" buys. Place 5 inf bid for 10, wait a few seconds, collect the 10 recipes, walk over to store (AP is good spot as example), sell at 5K or more a piece. Repeat. Take profit and buy salvage. |
I would love to be able to email a stack of items. I think the current email system functions like a global vault. A real global vault would be more convenient as I can simply drag stuffs in and out. A huge global vault to replace the personal storage is always in my wish list such that all my items can be shared by all my characters. But I guess the exact implementation would be problematic.
Would it be possible to have both a local and a global vault? Switch between the two by clicking a tab on the vault interface?
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I am 100% behind having the ability to mail a stack of items at once. Not so keen on the rest of the idea. Though the global storage might be a good idea if it were a bit smaller than the suggested 100 (25, maybe), and in addition to regular vault storage.
And this seems to be a good time to bring up my personal wish: Get rid on the Enhancement Tray and replace it with an Enhancement Window, like the one for salvage. Keep it at a limit of 10 enhancements, but allow identical enhancements to stack in the window, and allow them to trade and be transfered to the market in stacks, just like salvage and recipes can!
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It is a suggested amount, I have 47 50's so I know what I would be loosing out.
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But to come up with a outrageous amount would get laughed at by the devs |
I'd rather loose a little to gain much more. |
And what exactly is this "gain" you are referring to? The ability to move a couple pieces of salvage between characters on the same account. Gee I could have sworn we could do this already via Email.
Yeah adding a feature that already duplicates something we can already do but destroys our ability to store salvage. What a great idea.
Unless you have each piece of salvage listed for each toon how long would it take you to hunt down the salvage you would need? |
You rather add to the price gouging at the market? |
More than likely you'll say I have billions... I have billions too and I'd like to keep that so I am able to buy the recipes I need for the toons, I surely don't want to spend more on the salvage then the recipes it takes to slot the toon. |
And despite being relatively "poor" compared to other players I have never had any trouble getting exactly what I want on any of my characters by using Merits, AE Tickets, random drops, and reasonable bids on the market while excercising a little patience.
As far as the SG salvage lockers not all my toons are in the same sgs, or even on the same servers... Sure I'd like to see them expand the lockers, will I ever think they will do it... not really. |
Not everyone have 47 50's let alone 80. |
But I'm sure a lot of people are getting feed up with spending an arm and a leg on salvage. |
Would it be possible to have both a local and a global vault? Switch between the two by clicking a tab on the vault interface?
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Though the global storage might be a good idea if it were a bit smaller than the suggested 100 (25, maybe), and in addition to regular vault storage.
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These are reasonable ideas as an addition to our current Vault Reserve. Good job guys.
Again it was a suggested amount of vault storage, I posted this for ideas what the storage should be or what people would think is a acceptable amount.
My point was that I think most people are missing is that throughout my toons I have this salvage (like most others) but it's spread out through multiple toons. I'm looking at being able to access the salvage that I already have instead of running AE or having to pay the jacked up price of it.
If my toon just hit 27, 37, or 47 I would like to go ahead and slot the recipes within that level range. Please remember that everyone just got 3 respecs for each toon they have. Now if you are trying to adjust for inherent fitness and or make some other modification to your toon you will have to purchase some sort of salvage. Now I can only speak for myself that I made a lot of changes to a lot of toons and I did this before I started running TF/SF for shards and yes after I get done doing my respec I would like to finish slotting it so I can do these tf/sf's... I personally don't care to run a toon on a tf/sf that isn't slotted properly.
As far as a global and a regular vault I am all for that as well, anything that will allow me to gain access to salvage quicker that is on another toon without forcing me to log over to every toon I have to get to it.
As far as salvage being gauged on the market, when was the last time someone bought a Alchemical Gold, a few weeks ago it was selling for the same price as some rare salvage (one million for a uncommon salvage and that is just one example of how the salvage market has gone crazy) and now sits at a nice price of 500K... So people do not think that is gauged?
Again, I am looking for ideas for what an acceptable amount would be.
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Again, I am looking for ideas for what an acceptable amount would be.
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Salvage is easy to come by. And through a little planning ahead and patience, you can get what you need either by the market or accessing through storage via personal vault, storage on a toon, storage on the market, or even SG bins. Just those alone, I can not fathom how much salvage you are requiring here, even after respecing for Fitness, and it exceeding all that storage just mentioned.
And what is this gauging you are speaking of? You place a bid for what you will pay, go play or log off and enjoy RL or whatever over some time (be it minutes, an hour, or overnight), and come back later, salvage is there and waiting. If you are paying 500K for something, that is because you are bidding that high (meaning you are accepting to pay this amount) or you are impatient and pay HAVEITNOW!!! prices. For example, respec a toon, see what you need, place bid, switch toons, respec 2nd toon, see what you need, place bids, switch back to 1st toon and there you go, your salvage is waiting. And by the time you are done slotting the 1st toon, switch back to 2nd toon and collect the salvage again. It really is easy.
I think being able to send more then 1 object via email - good idea.
I think the global vault - in addition to what we already have - good idea.
I would like to see some way to store recieps, but I tend to be a pack rat who at the same time (because of the nature of recieps) only slot toons that I want to play post lvl 50, most of which get moved to off servers or deleted to make room for more alts. So I end up with bins full of non stock IO's, and toons full of receips. Having a place to put 25 or 50, while I await random salvage to build them or deciding to step into the AE building for some grind ticket manufacturing would be a good thing, (it will allow me to not have to ticket grind for another 2 weeks or so). I am assuming there was some logic at some point behind not allowing people to store recieps. Probably the same logic behind not being able to store mass quanities of salvage. I also assume it has something to do with supply and demand even though I'm not a business major.
But if your gonna ask for more salvage space, why not ask for some space to store recieps.
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I think therefore I'm confused.
Personally, I'm loving the "gouging" that OP decries. Like Forbin, I run a lot of alts (only 2 50s, 6 above 40, 50+ under 40). My lowbies are making money right now, saving up for the future.
I don't expect the prices to stay high indefinitely, so I'm selling stuff as I get it, only keeping things on a particular character if I know as of right now that I will need it for a particular IO in the near term. I'm also placing those low bids others have mentioned for salvage I am planning on using.
Of course the reason that is working out for me is because I can switch to one of several other characters to play while I wait for the bids to come through. Those players who are working diligently on a single "main" will not want to use my system - except, of course, they can also reap the benefit of being able to sell stuff for the currently going rate.
I could see perhaps adding a smallish (25-35) shared vault. I have that on 5 different servers now with small 2-person SGs, so I would rarely use it, but I could see it being useful for those who are only running a few characters spread among multiple servers/SGs.
Can't really support it, but not adamantly against it either.
As for making *all* storage shared across the account - No thanks, for the reasons Forbin listed in his first post.
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Again it was a suggested amount of vault storage, I posted this for ideas what the storage should be or what people would think is a acceptable amount.
My point was that I think most people are missing is that throughout my toons I have this salvage (like most others) but it's spread out through multiple toons. I'm looking at being able to access the salvage that I already have instead of running AE or having to pay the jacked up price of it. If my toon just hit 27, 37, or 47 I would like to go ahead and slot the recipes within that level range. Please remember that everyone just got 3 respecs for each toon they have. Now if you are trying to adjust for inherent fitness and or make some other modification to your toon you will have to purchase some sort of salvage. Now I can only speak for myself that I made a lot of changes to a lot of toons and I did this before I started running TF/SF for shards and yes after I get done doing my respec I would like to finish slotting it so I can do these tf/sf's... I personally don't care to run a toon on a tf/sf that isn't slotted properly. As far as a global and a regular vault I am all for that as well, anything that will allow me to gain access to salvage quicker that is on another toon without forcing me to log over to every toon I have to get to it. As far as salvage being gauged on the market, when was the last time someone bought a Alchemical Gold, a few weeks ago it was selling for the same price as some rare salvage (one million for a uncommon salvage and that is just one example of how the salvage market has gone crazy) and now sits at a nice price of 500K... So people do not think that is gauged? Again, I am looking for ideas for what an acceptable amount would be. |
/Unsigned to global access.
As far as salvage being gauged on the market, when was the last time someone bought a Alchemical Gold, a few weeks ago it was selling for the same price as some rare salvage (one million for a uncommon salvage and that is just one example of how the salvage market has gone crazy) and now sits at a nice price of 500K... So people do not think that is gauged?
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Been talking to a lot of my global friends and we all agree that we would like to see the Vault go global or being able to email more then one item at a time. Salvage prices have gone through the roof, most of us if not all have more salvage then we know what to do with it's just getting to it cause it's all on toons spread out across the server or multiple servers.
What I had in mind was expanding the vault to a global level of 100 salvage items per account or expanding email so you are able to ship 10 items of similar things at once.
This will hopefully reduce the price jacking on the markets and make it so some salvage costs less then the recipe your trying to craft.
I asked this question on the Guardian servers and this is what a handful thought.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=247959
Let me know how you feel about this idea.
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