Why is Grandville called Grandville?
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Posted on: 2010-12-07 24:21 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Zaion
Because it's grand?
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Because they needed a name for a special place, a dark place, a place containing all manner of unspeakable evil; a twisted shadow of a city, polluted, steeped in treachery and deceit...
...and "Detroit" was already taken.
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..... and that the "District of Columbia" has even more of a history |
Originally Posted by PSLAnimal
Because they needed a name for a special place, a dark place, a place containing all manner of unspeakable evil; a twisted shadow of a city, polluted, steeped in treachery and deceit...
...and "Detroit" was already taken. |
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I'll side with Detroit on this one, as it's an economic wasteland.
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Originally Posted by Magellen
..... and that the "District of Columbia" has even more of a history
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Because "That *BLEEP!*BLEEP!*BLEEP!*BLEEP!*BLEEP!*BLEEP!*BLEEP!* BLEEP!* Hell Hole" just doesn't have quite the same je ne sais quoi.|
Originally Posted by Progressman
It always seemed like an odd name for the center of an evil organization...
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That and it makes printing placenames on travel brochures cheaper...
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Actually, Recluse took a fascist organisation and turned it anarchist. Some remnants of the old order remains (largely embodied by Ghost Widow, who is not loyal to Recluse), and he holds anarchist ideals and world views pretty consistently, actually. It's one of the few things about Recluse as depicted in the game I like; he's unabashedly Chaotic, and acts like a Chaotic. |
Originally Posted by Afterimage
I don't see how anyone at the head of an army of spider themed thugs can be considered an anarchist. That's quite some fascist hierarchy he has there.
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Recluse demands you obey and follow him on the (not entirely unfounded) assumption that he and his power can crush you if you do not. He demands obedience not for obedience's sake, but to keep him from killing you. That's why Arbiters are "inviolate" - they are his arm and he doesn't want you breaking it. But in reality, when you do violate his rules, he doesn't actually punish you, because in doing so you've proven your strength to get away with it. He keeps Scirocco on despite him trying to rewrite the universe because of Scirocco's audacity. He acquiesces when you throw his future-mask down before him despite that fact that he could probably send all of Arachnos to destroy you because he respects your power.
Recluse is most definitely an anarchist, and any signs you see of him being fascist instead are misunderstandings of what anarchism actually means (or mistaking Ghost Widow's faction for Recluse's).
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Grand can mean large in English too. The word actually has like 15 English definitions and I'm not sure everyone posting here is aware of some of the more fitting ones like "highly ambitious or idealistic" or "of great importance, distinction, or pretension."|
Originally Posted by Basilisk
Most people are taking the English definition of the word "grand," but bear in mind that an awful lot of the Rogue Isles' names come from French. In French, you have "grand" which is large, and "ville" for city. So, Grandville is just French for "big city." I suppose it's the largest city area in the Isles, but it's still a bit of a misnomer in comparison to Paragon.
The thing I have to wonder is if it's an indirect reference to another comic city named for being a big city: Metropolis, home of Superman. Or if it's just its own big city and our devs are painfully bland in their naming. |
Also I would be extremely surprised if "Smallville" wasn't thought of during the naming process.
Keep in mind that while there is lore for the isles existing before Recluse claimed them, that lore was probably crafted after the expansion was set into motion. Cryptic (at the time) knew full well what the isles would be as they named them, so I'm sure there is some relevance.
Ignore these people. The reason Grandville is called Grandville is because unknown to everyone, Zynga bought the rights to the Rogue Isles and turned the Web into an internet phenomenon called Farmville.
And you wonder why Recluse rants so often...he got cut out of the profits.
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When City of Villains was announced and they were talking about how Grandville was going to be a "vertical" zone, I think my imagination really went crazy and I thought it was going to be a ridiculously tall city with lots of stuff happening from top to bottom. Turns out it is tall with most of the stuff happening on the ground floor. 
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Originally Posted by SuperOz
Ignore these people. The reason Grandville is called Grandville is because unknown to everyone, Zynga bought the rights to the Rogue Isles and turned the Web into an internet phenomenon called Farmville.
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I thought it would be a city built into the wall of a cliff or something.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
When City of Villains was announced and they were talking about how Grandville was going to be a "vertical" zone, I think my imagination really went crazy and I thought it was going to be a ridiculously tall city with lots of stuff happening from top to bottom. Turns out it is tall with most of the stuff happening on the ground floor.
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om ock i gyllne dosor.
Och rosor i ett sprucket krus
�r st�ndigt alltid rosor."
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Wow! That would be neat!
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Originally Posted by Arilou
I thought it would be a city built into the wall of a cliff or something.
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Grandville is called Grandville due to the fact out of all the villes, Grandville is the grandest, which is why the people who founded Grandville named it Grandville, so next time you go to Grandville, remember how it got the name Grandville. Now, back to getting badges in Grandville.
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I dunno, there's still plenty of activity in the Tangle, I think.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
When City of Villains was announced and they were talking about how Grandville was going to be a "vertical" zone, I think my imagination really went crazy and I thought it was going to be a ridiculously tall city with lots of stuff happening from top to bottom. Turns out it is tall with most of the stuff happening on the ground floor.
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To be fair, Recluse kinda sees evil as necessary side effect of being a true Darwinian.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Yeah, gotta agree with Golden Girl for once, Claws. Lord Recluse and all of Arachnos know good and well that they're evil, and they delight in it in their quest for power.
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Because 'Not So Grandville" didn't sound as good of course!
Everytime I see the name though... In my mind I hear...
"Take the last train to Grandville and I'll meet you at the station! There's no need to worry because I've made our reservations!
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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
Actually, Recluse took a fascist organisation and turned it anarchist. Some remnants of the old order remains (largely embodied by Ghost Widow, who is not loyal to Recluse), and he holds anarchist ideals and world views pretty consistently, actually. It's one of the few things about Recluse as depicted in the game I like; he's unabashedly Chaotic, and acts like a Chaotic.
Recluse demands you obey and follow him on the (not entirely unfounded) assumption that he and his power can crush you if you do not. He demands obedience not for obedience's sake, but to keep him from killing you. That's why Arbiters are "inviolate" - they are his arm and he doesn't want you breaking it. But in reality, when you do violate his rules, he doesn't actually punish you, because in doing so you've proven your strength to get away with it. He keeps Scirocco on despite him trying to rewrite the universe because of Scirocco's audacity. He acquiesces when you throw his future-mask down before him despite that fact that he could probably send all of Arachnos to destroy you because he respects your power. Recluse is most definitely an anarchist, and any signs you see of him being fascist instead are misunderstandings of what anarchism actually means (or mistaking Ghost Widow's faction for Recluse's). |
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Originally Posted by Stogieman
Ok.... I'm utterly horrified now.
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But he seems to go out of his way to be evil - like if you compare him to Tyrant, Tyrant does evil stuff because he thinks it's the "right" thing to do - Recluse seems to be evil because he actually enjoys it.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
To be fair, Recluse kinda sees evil as necessary side effect of being a true Darwinian.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But he seems to go out of his way to be evil - like if you compare him to Tyrant, Tyrant does evil stuff because he thinks it's the "right" thing to do - Recluse seems to be evil because he actually enjoys it.
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I don't know about you, but when City of Villains released it was called Lagville...
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