Respec Early?


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Hey Beta players for i19, I am wondering if it makes sense to start respecing toons that I rarely play. I do have a respec on them. Is there any reason not to respec out of fitness pool now (since I won't be playing them) or will I be missing some sort of new content by respec now?

Thanks.


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Originally Posted by shaggy5 View Post
Hey Beta players for i19, I am wondering if it makes sense to start respecing toons that I rarely play. I do have a respec on them. Is there any reason not to respec out of fitness pool now (since I won't be playing them) or will I be missing some sort of new content by respec now?

Thanks.
You won't miss any new content if you respec now. However, unless you have a freespec already sitting around on your characters, I would wait, so that you don't lose a banked one.


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Honestly, through out the beta I never respecced any of my older characters. My main improved so much just with the end reduct/dam resist boost I did not need to. However, I am going to respec him once this goes live. I will finally be able to get some utility powers that he could use and would help him.

But in answer to your question, if you dont play them that much you dont need to resepc them. They will play just as good as before and better once (or if) you alpha boost them.


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Since the freespecs dont stack, if you already have one you might as well use it now so that you dont lose it. Of course, if its someone you dont play often, you probably wont be using alot of respecs anyway, and you'll still have one at the end of the update process. In that case, not using the existing freespec wont be the end of the world.


 

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Honestly, through out the beta I never respecced any of my older characters. My main improved so much just with the end reduct/dam resist boost I did not need to. However, I am going to respec him once this goes live. I will finally be able to get some utility powers that he could use and would help him.

But in answer to your question, if you dont play them that much you dont need to resepc them. They will play just as good as before and better once (or if) you alpha boost them.
I'd wait in most cases. If you respec now, you won't be able to slot fitness powers at all. If you expect the build to only need or want 1 slot in fitness powers, then I guess go ahead.

Of course, as a previous poster said, if you really rarely play them, and they work OK now, no real need to respec at all...


 

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Mad--that makes sense. I hadn't thought about that. I am sure some toons (or most) I will want more than one slot.


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It sure does make sense to get respec early, especially if you have a lot of characters that use Fitness. When I19 gores live we'll be getting 2 freespecs but they'll be given a week apart and they won't stack. So if you don't respec all your characters in that first week you'll lose the second freespec on any character that hasn't used the first one.

And if your account was active in August when GR went live you should still have any unused freespecs they gave out then.

Also remember that you can only pull 10 enhancements off of a build, and depending on how Fitness is slotted you could easily find yourself losing enhancements if you don't plan ahead and pull them early.


I have 80+ characters and I used my GR freespecs to get my characters that use fitness ready so when I19 hits I won't be panicking rushing to get use of both freespecs, and I won't be losing any enhancements.


 

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Originally Posted by Madadh View Post
I'd wait in most cases. If you respec now, you won't be able to slot fitness powers at all. If you expect the build to only need or want 1 slot in fitness powers, then I guess go ahead.

Of course, as a previous poster said, if you really rarely play them, and they work OK now, no real need to respec at all...
Of course.. if they aren't level 50 then you can just add the slots next time you level.


 

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Personally what I am doing with the four I plan on going all the way with the Incarnate system is this. I am getting thier new builds made and using my freespec now. I leave out the fitness pool and the extra slots either go into brawl or rest. That way I have all IOs, Hammis and what not ready when this goes live.

In addtion it is kinda fun playing them right now without fitness. Makes it a touch more challenging.


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Of course.. if they aren't level 50 then you can just add the slots next time you level.
And that is exactly how I went thru and set up my lower level characters, and on my 50's I pulled the ones I needed off the builds so I don't lose anything when I tweak their builds to make room for the 4 new power choices they'll have.


 

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For sure, if you have a lot (more than 10) of IOs you want to pull out, I'd get started early. But, if not. While as everyone else has pointed out, if less than 50, you can add slots next level (or in 2 levels depending on where exactly you happen to be sitting at currently) if you happen to be used to 3 slots in Health and 3 slots in Stamina, going a level or 2 without or respeccing twice both seem a bit silly. I guess the best real answer is....

It'll vary on a player by player, and character by character basis, depending on several factors.

I'm doing some now, some later, and some alts won't have to respec at all. Either becuase I don't care enough about it on that alt, or because they don't have fitness now, and won't need extra slotting once they get it for free.


 

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I don't see there's any reason to respec early. You won't pick up the "new" inherent fitness pool until you respec *after* update 19 is out. Respec-ing before update 19 doesn't really gain you anything other than practicing or something. And you can do that on test server.


 

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And that is exactly how I went thru and set up my lower level characters, and on my 50's I pulled the ones I needed off the builds so I don't lose anything when I tweak their builds to make room for the 4 new power choices they'll have.
Only problem now is I have a lot of toons sucking wind for 2 more weeks.


 

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Only problem now is I have a lot of toons sucking wind for 2 more weeks.
There's always the option of using this time to play with new character concepts. Levels 1-20 are Stamina poor now anyway so they'll get a nice boost when I19 goes live.


 

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Logic tells me to use the free-spec I have on my toons...

But I am so happy with my current built on all the toons... and making the respec after i19 will already be so much work (36 toons on Guardian, not counting the second accounts)... I will just let the free-specs burn thenselves...


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There's always the option of using this time to play with new character concepts. Levels 1-20 are Stamina poor now anyway so they'll get a nice boost when I19 goes live.
I think that any characters already in existance at the time that I-19 hits will need to use a respec (or frespec) to bring in inherent Fitness.

So you can certainly start characters now, but you will still need to respec low level characters to get inherent Fitness. (You probably knew that, but it wasn't clear from your post.)

One nice thing about using up a freespec: Take any IOs or other enhancements in your base that you aren't using and probably won't use and put them in your tray before you type "/respec," and you can turn them into Influence. Now-a-days when Influence is so easy to get, it isn't much, but it is a nice way to clean out your Enhancement tables.


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Originally Posted by Local_Man View Post
I think that any characters already in existance at the time that I-19 hits will need to use a respec (or frespec) to bring in inherent Fitness.

So you can certainly start characters now, but you will still need to respec low level characters to get inherent Fitness. (You probably knew that, but it wasn't clear from your post.)
I know no such thing because I have not seen any posts by the devs saying that every single character existing before I19 goes live will need to do a respec. If you have information from the devs that states that then please provide a link so that we can confirm it.

As far as I know the only characters that will need to do a respec are the ones that have already chosen and slotted at least one of the powers from the Fitness set. And to the best of my knowledge, characters that haven't chosen any Fitness powers will simply log in after I19 goes live and find that 4 new powers have been added to the inherent list under Brawl, Sprint, and Rest.

Why do I think that? Because I didn't have to do a respec when they gave us Walk. I also didn't have to respec when other powers were added to my inherent list like my Vet Reward Temp Powers, or the inherent powers from the boosters and new editions like Ninja Run, Mystic Fortune, Mission Teleport, etc.


And you can't point at the fact that the devs are giving every character respecs as proof because the devs have always given every character a freespec when they make changes to powers. Even when only one power or powerset was affected they still gave everyone freespecs whether they needed it or not.


 

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I think it really depends upon how you feel about Respecing.

I have a couple I would like to but I dislike the process enough that it can wait another 8 months.


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