Shockwave vs. Dark Obliteration


Bill Z Bubba

 

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I have a claws/elec brute im leveling, and I have shockwave at the moment. I was wondering if dark obliteration is a better choice. I know it does not come until much later in the game but I am going in the soul mastery pool anyway so i can get gloom and was just thinking that it may be better since it is a targeted AoE and no cone to position when the mobs are dog piling on you. Any thoughts or suggestions?


 

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The redraw might get annoying after awhile. Also, it depends on your opinion of the KB that Shockwave does.


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the KB is kind of annoying, although i have noticed if you hit shockwave followed by spin, spin still hits the targets that were knocked back. The redraw is a short animation so i don't think it will be THAT annoying. Does dark obliteration do comparable damage? or is shockwave heads above it.


 

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Shockwave:
Damage: 47.1
Recharge: 14.4
End Cost: 13.5
Non-Arcanatime Animation: 1 second

Dark Obliteration:
Damage: 37.5
Recharge: 32
End cost: 19
Non Arcanatime Activation: 1s

Shockwave looks better from a number's perspective. However I personally HATE the knockback of the power, so I would not pick up shockwave for any reason.



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Originally Posted by Ethical View Post
the KB is kind of annoying, although i have noticed if you hit shockwave followed by spin, spin still hits the targets that were knocked back. The redraw is a short animation so i don't think it will be THAT annoying. Does dark obliteration do comparable damage? or is shockwave heads above it.
^This. And after spin I hit focus which is a ranged attack. After those two attacks everyone is usually back on their feet and back in range to start your attack chain over again.

*And Shockwave is a VERY brutish attack, much moreso than Eviscerate.*


 

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Dont forget that Dark oblit has a higher target cap of 16 compared to shockwaves 10, i think.


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ahhh, all this is making it very hard to pick. I really hate the knockback, as do the teams i am on. But dark obliteration does half the damage and recharges in twice the time that shockwave does. decisions decisions


 

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Bill Z Bubba is the guru on claws. Find his posts on this. It will be educational.


 

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Originally Posted by Ethical View Post
ahhh, all this is making it very hard to pick. I really hate the knockback, as do the teams i am on. But dark obliteration does half the damage and recharges in twice the time that shockwave does. decisions decisions
I believe the knockback becomes knockdown when you face +4s due to the purple patch.


 

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Originally Posted by Nicro View Post
I believe the knockback becomes knockdown when you face +4s due to the purple patch.
Only on scrappers. Brute claws shockwave still knocks +4s back due to the way the AT modifiers work.


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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
Only on scrappers. Brute claws shockwave still knocks +4s back due to the way the AT modifiers work.
Some serious crap if you ask me.......
Put the production of an army of Claws Brutes on hold
I guess I'll just have to be OK with scrappers


 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
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Really? That's a damn shame. I remember that pic; edgy, but hardly cause for modsmack.


 

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Really, the fox tailed thingy or whatever? Wow. I get grilled for a week, not a word from the mods. Someone puts lipstick and a jumpsuit on a cartoon character, stop the presses. There ain't no justice.


 

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On any other aoe comparison with dark O, I'd go with dark O. This time, I say shockwave.

I hate KB too but hate uncontrolled KB. As in somebody else KBing my target while I'm in the middle of an attack chain or I'm trying to hit a mob with spin and a in comes an explosive blast.

Shockwave buys time to recover in the middle of a fight, if needed, and its a cool looking finishing attack. Knocking a mob into a wall and them not getting back up is hard to beat.


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