Darth Maul's Successor - Star Wars Clone Wars
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Posted on: 2010-11-11 20:18 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Figured I would share the details at the website posted at the end of the trailier....
At Last -- The Secret of Darth Maul is Revealed!
Lucasfilm Ltd. and Cartoon Network invite you to limited theatrical screenings and a BIG SCREEN sneak peek at an all-new Clone Wars villain - the monstrous SAVAGE OPRESS! For the first time ever, Sith training will be explored - and with it, truths about the very nature of the dark side itself!
A warrior forged by a dark sorcery as mystical and powerful as the Force, Opress will uncover shocking revelations about the galaxy's tenuous balance of power, including secrets about one of the Sith's most infamous villains -- Episode I's Darth Maul! From his origins to his fate, Maul's mysteries will at long last be uncovered...
For a list of cities where these screenings will occur, and to RSVP, follow the links below. These screenings are FREE, but we ask that all attendees bring a new/unwrapped toy to benefit children in need this holiday season.
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Go Team Venture!
After watching that one thing came to mind
"....Or Dooku could've taken Ventress as his apprentice?"
Having Dooku pick a double-lightsaber wielding, Zabrak apprentice seems more like a Lucas cash-in attempt than anything. It's also an insulting one to Darth Maul. While i think he's the most overhyped Sith, it's pretty sad that they are trying to say a guy being described as a 'reckless, impulsive animal' is the next Darth Maul. Maul looked fearsome but he wasn't a brainless brute, in order to survive Palpatine's training he'd have to have brains, brawn and a strong force affinity.
It's like they dont even pay attention to their own canon. 
No that was the beginning of his training when Dooku described him as such. You likely see him progress into a well tuned fighting machine as Maul was as the trailer showed at the end.
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Savage Oppress?
what, did we run out of types of prescription medicine to name Star Wars characters after?
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Originally Posted by Veritech
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Savage Oppress? what, did we run out of types of prescription medicine to name Star Wars characters after? |
Now I can't stop thinking of medicine names as character names.
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Found another video with this Savage Opress guy:
http://www.starwars.com/video/view/001073.html
and
http://www.starwars.com/video/view/001147.html
Still not a fan of the Savage-guy but at least my Apprentice question is answered and I get to see my favorite group of Sith Witches.
**Possible Spoilers**
Mother Talzin was a Nightsister witch active during the Clone Wars. During the war, "Mother" Talzin took in Asajj Ventress after she landed on Dathomir to escape Count Dooku. Talzin also seemed to be an associate of the Count. She provided a yellow and black-skinned male Zabrak called Savage Opress to be his new apprentice after Darth Sidious ordered him to kill Ventress.
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OR did Sidious' trainning produce the skilled sith warrior that we saw on screen. We never saw maul previously to those appearances and it was pretty apparent he was atleast in an advance stage of combat trainning by that point.|
Originally Posted by Talia_Rayvyn
After watching that one thing came to mind
"....Or Dooku could've taken Ventress as his apprentice?" Having Dooku pick a double-lightsaber wielding, Zabrak apprentice seems more like a Lucas cash-in attempt than anything. It's also an insulting one to Darth Maul. While i think he's the most overhyped Sith, it's pretty sad that they are trying to say a guy being described as a 'reckless, impulsive animal' is the next Darth Maul. Maul looked fearsome but he wasn't a brainless brute, in order to survive Palpatine's training he'd have to have brains, brawn and a strong force affinity. It's like they dont even pay attention to their own canon. |
The release says that we are going to see for the first time the processes that go into training a sith. Nothing indicates that Maul wasnt originally just as brutish as this dude was. Infact i would guess that would be part of the reason a sith would pick someone would be based on sheer strenght and ruthlessness even before being trained to harness it for the dark side.
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After the way Darth Valium turned out they decided that was enough of that which was probably a good thing since Darth Viagra would have been next.
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Originally Posted by Veritech
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Savage Oppress? what, did we run out of types of prescription medicine to name Star Wars characters after? |
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Great.
Now I can't stop thinking of medicine names as character names. |
I'm not sure i agree with all this dilution of the Maul character. First they bring him back with robotic crab-legs, then SW:Force Unleashed has a Maul/Starkiller hybrid clone. They should get back in contact with Dermot Powers who did a whole load of great Sith apprentice / acolyte artwork concepts in the build-up to AOTC, and without recycling Maul all the time.
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What? no Darth Cialis? or Ambassador Paxil? i am disappoint!
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
After the way Darth Valium turned out they decided that was enough of that which was probably a good thing since Darth Viagra would have been next.
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
OR did Sidious' trainning produce the skilled sith warrior that we saw on screen. We never saw maul previously to those appearances and it was pretty apparent he was atleast in an advance stage of combat trainning by that point.
The release says that we are going to see for the first time the processes that go into training a sith. Nothing indicates that Maul wasnt originally just as brutish as this dude was. |
Darth Maul was a Zabrak born on Iridonia, the home planet of his species. His master, Darth Sidious, took him from his family at a very early age, to begin his training to the dark side of the force.
A younger Darth Maul training under Darth Sidious.
Maul began training with Sidious at an early age, who indoctrinated in him the ways of the dark side of the Force. During his training, any show of fear was severely punished by Sidious, and any hint of mercy rewarded with cruelty.
By the time Maul was an adolescent, his master had already forged him into a weapon of pure hatred. Marked by Sith tattoos that covered his entire muscular body, the young Zabrak warrior was now the ultimate tool of the dark side. He had a sense of honor, however, respecting those he deemed worthy opponents and granting them quick deaths. Despite a traumatic childhood, Maul had filial feelings toward his master, and never once contemplated killing him— until his final test
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We'll see how much of that gets retconned for the Clone Wars tv show. But for right now that is Darth Maul's history.
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
Infact i would guess that would be part of the reason a sith would pick someone would be based on sheer strenght and ruthlessness even before being trained to harness it for the dark side.
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My problem lies in the fact that the whole basis of this character being created is because they are trying to make a Darth Maul II (with a terrrrrible name), rather than creating something different or just using a character that's already been established. In the trailers they even say "Hey, you remember Darth Maul? I'm gonna get you one of the people from his race (who might even be related to him) to be your official apprentice." But we'll just paint his face yellow instead of red, that way he'll be exactly like Maul... but different (with a terrrrrible name).
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You think prescription meds, I think angry opera singer.
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Originally Posted by Veritech
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Savage Oppress? what, did we run out of types of prescription medicine to name Star Wars characters after? |
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It was the same with that Greedo episode.|
Originally Posted by Talia_Rayvyn
My problem lies in the fact that the whole basis of this character being created is because they are trying to make a Darth Maul II (with a terrrrrible name), rather than creating something different or just using a character that's already been established. In the trailers they even say "Hey, you remember Darth Maul? I'm gonna get you one of the people from his race (who might even be related to him) to be your official apprentice." But we'll just paint his face yellow instead of red, that way he'll be exactly like Maul... but different (with a terrrrrible name).
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Announcer guy: "You remember Greedo? Yeah, I knew you'd like that."
Me: STFU! Who gives a damn about that guy!
Announcer guy: "What about Darth Maul? Take a look at this guy."
Me: Again, who gives a ****!? *Darth Maul* was cool because he was unique. I don't really give a flying **** about this poser >_>
It would have been 'plainly cool' if they just did more explanation of the Nightsisters or other various force-user lore rather than 'sell-out interesting' by diluting established characters with 'meh' extra fluff...I'm just interested in more talk of what the dark side is and other Sith lore....
-Sigh- at least they're not cloning Maul again or something stupid.
I think Savage Oppress looked pretty cool. I hope that they give a Darth name soon though, that name is horrible.
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I could be down for some Star Wars Opera.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
You think prescription meds, I think angry opera singer.
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So you only have a problem with this dude because he is basicly the same race as maul. But its not a problem when they introduce the mandalorians, or baby fett, or expand on any of the other history-less characters in the star wars universe? Frankly i welcome the idea of expanding on maul's race. IMO clone wars as been and continues to be a very good, quality star wars series, and im not willing to jump onto the *****-festing bandwagon simply because they are trying to generate appeal for the show off of past popularity. The more that watch the show, the more chance that cartoon network will continue to want to pay for what im sure is an expensive to produce series for them. So i give them there few episodes a year that deal with things like mandalorians, boba fett, and now maul becuase the rest of the 90 percent of the episodes for the season are usually high enough quality i can forgive the blatent attempts are garnering popularity off popular characters.|
Originally Posted by Talia_Rayvyn
Darth Maul was a Zabrak born on Iridonia, the home planet of his species. His master, Darth Sidious, took him from his family at a very early age, to begin his training to the dark side of the force. A younger Darth Maul training under Darth Sidious. Maul began training with Sidious at an early age, who indoctrinated in him the ways of the dark side of the Force. During his training, any show of fear was severely punished by Sidious, and any hint of mercy rewarded with cruelty. By the time Maul was an adolescent, his master had already forged him into a weapon of pure hatred. Marked by Sith tattoos that covered his entire muscular body, the young Zabrak warrior was now the ultimate tool of the dark side. He had a sense of honor, however, respecting those he deemed worthy opponents and granting them quick deaths. Despite a traumatic childhood, Maul had filial feelings toward his master, and never once contemplated killing him— until his final test Source We'll see how much of that gets retconned for the Clone Wars tv show. But for right now that is Darth Maul's history. I have no problems with Dooku picking someone as his apprentice that relies on sheer strength. Every Sith Lord has their own personal preferences and reasons for picking their apprentice. My problem lies in the fact that the whole basis of this character being created is because they are trying to make a Darth Maul II (with a terrrrrible name), rather than creating something different or just using a character that's already been established. In the trailers they even say "Hey, you remember Darth Maul? I'm gonna get you one of the people from his race (who might even be related to him) to be your official apprentice." But we'll just paint his face yellow instead of red, that way he'll be exactly like Maul... but different (with a terrrrrible name). |
Clone wars in that way i think is the polar opposite of say a show like Smallville. Where they advertise a popular character or theme like using the Justice Society or Legion and that one or two episodes isnt bad and the rest of the series is total crapfest. With clone wars these maul episode will probably be decent and fit into an over all good show.
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Darth Oppress.|
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I think Savage Oppress looked pretty cool. I hope that they give a Darth name soon though, that name is horrible.
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Nah, needs to be shorter and punchier.
Darth Oprah.
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