Thoughts on purples


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Having thoughts on going on a purple buying spree pre-I19 due to all the respecs that are going to be done.

Currently in storage, I've got two Apocalpyseamages, one Ragnorok: Chance for Knockdown, and two Absolute Amazement: Stuns, with a little over 4.9 billion in cash. Now, looking at the purple prices and comparing them to pre-I18 (did a purple buying spree just before I18 dropped)?

Purple prices have more then doubled. At the same time, the prices of all other recipes have been gutted. Personally? I blame the A-merit changes. There's no longer any reason to pay a huge amount for a LoTG and people are now having a lot more cash left over to put to purples (the recipe drop structure of halloween also helped w/ this due to the H-merit drop choice). Also a big factor is the number of people leveling new characters due to side switching / existence of gold side.

So my question is... What do you guys think I19 is going to mean to purple prices? With Incarnate coming out, people are going to be playing their 50's a lot more instead of doing lower level stuff, which will both mean more purples dropping, more inf on hand, and more recipe drops that people won't need.

Hmmmm. Grrrrr.


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I think that more people playing more 50s will help, but I think we're long past the days when you could pick up an entire set of Hecatomb for a quarter billion.

I do think the extra drops from all the 50s grinding away at the existing TFs for Incarnate loot is going to put a sizable dent in the current prices. We'll probably see things back down to around the prices they were when GR launched, or at least half way between the prices now and the prices then.

Then again:

A) We now have access to a third build, so who knows how many people are going to feel a need to slot that one full of purples as well.
B) Lesser-played or team-built alts (Stone Tanks, Empaths, Kins, and the other toons that everyone makes with the sole intent to help out their friends) are going to be in high demand for the new content, and as they get played, their owners will likely start focusing more on their builds.
C) I failed Intro to Economics in college (its the only class I ever failed), so I very likely have no idea what I'm talking about.


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Not concerned. Purples and PvPOs being super expensive is fine. Everything is else is easy to get.

As long as prices are high because of high Demand and not too low Supply. It's more frustrating to me if there simply aren't any to be bought than if they are there but very pricey.


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Purples are a mixed bag. On many builds, characters are actually stronger without purples. Desmodas Siazar has 4 purples sets and I have considered removing them many times. Honestly, the only reason she still has them is because the current respec system makes them too much of a pain to remove.


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Purple prices have only gone up for the last 2 years or so. There have been a few times where the prices have dropped significantly but typically that was related to some bug/exploit that lead to a huge supply being dumped on the market.

I consider myself fortunate that I'm a hoarder, when Purples 1st came out and people were buying and selling them for 20-25million I got a bunch and haven't needed to buy too many to slot up characters.


 

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I guess one you have to consider, will more people grinding level 50 content for their incarnates and creating more purples to market bring the prices down or will it create more demand from people who maybe didn't purple out many of their builds before but will now they're playing said alts more? 50's that may have been gathering dust for a long time getting reactivated and builds improved.


 

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Got a whole mess of Purples stockpiled and have various ones slotted. Maybe I'm crazy, but I like most other IO sets over purples for the various stats. I only have 1 character with slotted Hects, have no range, AoE, or Targetted purples slotted, but plan on selling them. I generally only like Holds, immobs and confuses to slot as I feel those stats are generally better than regular IO bonuses; depends on the character and what they are working on however. Pet purples are hit or miss, but do have a few characters slotted with them, same with Amazements.

As for people playing 50s more, there *should* be more dropping. I think purples are best if you plan on exemping a lot without losing a ton of your dmg/acc/rech/etc. So with my thinking, 50s playing 50s won't be exemping as much, so they will be selling them more, driving costs down some. The damage ones will remain more expensive than all the others however, in my best guesstimation.

A-merits have helped with the horrible implementation of the "rare" IOs, driving prices down to nice levels. Purples and PvPIOs should be the most expensive stuff in the game IMO and the merits helped bring that back into balance. Just how expensive those things become is solely based on greed and the "but I want it now!" mentalitly however. You WILL get any recipe out there for far less than what the market shows if you're willing to wait X amount of time.

Incarnate stats, afaik, do not exemp down, so keep that in mind with planning builds.


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How many purples will be coming out of toons and going to market I wonder?


 

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If they are doing it only for the inherent stamina/health, I wouldn't think too many since there aren't purples for those. Whatever other powers they pick up might actually use some however.

Complete rebuilds though, who knows.


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I think purples are best if you plan on exemping a lot without losing a ton of your dmg/acc/rech/etc. So with my thinking, 50s playing 50s won't be exemping as much, so they will be selling them more, driving costs down some.
I dunno if I agree with you there. Even if what you say is true about their best use being for exemping, it doesn't matter unless players actually know this and believe/do the same thing. I certainly won't be more apt to sell my purples because I'll be playing my 50s at level 50 more. I slot them generally because I like procs that hit more often and I like stacking recharge bonuses, not because of enhancement values, and I will not be removing them from my builds.

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If they are doing it only for the inherent stamina/health, I wouldn't think too many since there aren't purples for those. Whatever other powers they pick up might actually use some however.
This, I agree with, however.


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i19 at the very minimum will serve to halt / slightly reduce the inflated purple prices; simply because of the increased supply. technically players will be earning more currency by playing their 50s, escep the plus 4 mobs; however that will not be enough to offset the added supply. personally, I have about 2 billion in purple bids at 20% below current market prices. I’m a big believer in patience when it comes to the market. both in terms of buying and selling, but I digress.

i was always under the impression that purple sets are underwhelming. they are a rechargers and exempters dream, but that’s about it.

Another factor to consider, a lot of people will go the spiritual a-slot path negating the number uno benefit of purples. I can imagine certain builds, respecing out of purples. BUT on the flip side, a-slot doesn’t exempt and purples do, so….

But yes, purple prices are set to come down. they really aren’t THAT good. And as to why it takes 20 hero merits to get one is beyond me. (actually i would guess the devs use statistcal methods) Hamster is correct; the other recipes are cake to get by comparison. A Numina unique in four days or a purple in 40 days. Go figure. The only conclusion is that the devs what the purlpe set to be tough to get both in terms of frequency of drops and price.


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As a graduate with a BA in Economics I can confidently say that prices will either go up, go down or stay the same.


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As a graduate with a BA in Economics I can confidently say that prices will either go up, go down or stay the same.
Working as a finance professional, I can confidently refute this argument, and confirm that the exact opposite of this will happen.


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