Just can't handle it.

Well just a little background on me, I have played this game since beta and fell in love with it on the first day of it releasing, tons of my friends were playing and it was so much fun! There were all sorts of people and this whole MMORPG thing was new to me. I started playing the classic fire/fire blaster as many did back in the day because powersets just didn't matter of how good they were or how much damage they did, we played them because they were fun and there was no gimp powerset to be named at that time. I got absolutely hooked on this game when PvP was introduced, literally didn't want to leave my room and played ALL night because I was just so amazed at this world that was a fantasy. Nothing else mattered but killing the next person, getting your character Hami'd up , and playing with friends that you had a blast being with. I played all the way up til i13 hit then I took a break from the game for about a year. I returned to see that everything had changed and that my Hamis that were packed into my characters were basically useless in this new system. (Based on how I slotted them) I heard rumors of how PvP got worse and was absolutely astonished, soon after that I returned to PvP and tried to Zone PvP with my Ice/em blaster (Totally useless), Invuln/EM Tank (Mostly useless but I could fix it up to be ok), Katana/SR (Was basically the **** before i13 came out, USELESS!!!! Not even worth touching or fixing), and my spines/regen (Not useless but needed alot of tweaking). I couldn't believe this was happening so I researched what people were saying and 99% hated EVERY single change that these devs were putting into place. Now all I see is FOTM toons and trashtalk worse than ever! 6 Issues later and now where are we? Nowhere? I don't see anything improving and EVERY single friend I had before I took my break had unsubscribed (not a bad idea). What really irritates me is how the devs couldn't give a rats ***, except a couple. I can't even find a player in SC on freedom at 10 oclock at night, WTF!?!?


Sorry for rambling and I have no idea how I can put all the **** I just wrote into paragraphs because its so scrambled, scrambled thoughts. I would just like some of your opinions and comments about all this, im sure most of you can relate to this ********. I would appreciate just positive feedback because if I saw a thread like this I would be quick to flame as well. Kinda newbish of me don't you think?


TL;DR
PvP sucks ***

Take a deep breath bro

The initial shock is hard to grasp.. but think of it this way: If you do love the game at least it got changed up so now you can be involved learning the new system. Gives ya something to do right?....

I have played a long time like you, we all have. After about a year of this new pvp and the few balances they've had along the way I adjusted. Its not too bad, I want to get my hands on some pvp ios.

So here is my rant, I've played in zone at least two hours every night for the past three months. Not one. Single. Drop. I capped 400 rep real quick and average 20-30 kills per sitting. WHAT THE HELL DEVS. Not only that, since i4, reputation is still USELESS!

There okay

It was a little less than a year, I have been through most of the issues, like i14 and up? I don't know the exact time I took off.

Never played pvp seriously, dabbled in it a few times, but never really committed to 'learning' it... now I'm taking Masque's "PVP University" on Victory (see Victory forum for info).
Not trying to be cold, but I think it's like all things that change: some people adapt, some people don't. If you like the game enough to adapt, then I think you might find some fun, but the old way of PVPing is gone.

Might be a good thing, since with all your Hami-o's, a new person may never have had a chance to challenge your numerical superiority, even with strong tactics. It's pretty disheartening to enter the PVP zone as a newbie and get crash-spiked instantly, repeatedly, by a 'super-pvp'er', I can tell you from experience...

And a very happy long-time-pvper may be of less value to NCSoft than a number of somewhat satisfied newbies. Isn't it more fun when you have a challenge, rather than when you whupp the other guy every time? One set of FOtM's has turned into a different set of FotM's - is that bad merely because it isn't YOUR FotM?

Like in all combat, when the rules of the game change, you have to adapt to the situation. I think there's still fun to be had in PvP, but you may need a different playstyle than the one you originally learned.

I have adapted fairly well. The changing of FOTM is fine with me but when they are OP to hell? That a different story, Im not saying that I don't play FOTMs because I have mind/fire, KM/regen and a psy/em. FYI if you wanna hit me up in game my global is @Hot Fry and a few characters of mine...
Hot Fry
Fluffy Danger
Fluffzorz
TATTQQ
Fluffykinz

Is this post for realz?

You just got fluffed up~

ZING!!!

Oh, and btw fluff, this is what you do with all those hami's... Strip all of your micro's and nuc's and give them to ole' 1 Hitta kthnx

The more I PvP the more I laugh at how broken it is. So rediculous.

For me, PvP died when set bonuses became mandatory to compete. It basically flew if the face of the entire design of auto-exemp PvP zones, and drove away so many people that the zones become a ghost town.

Arenas were never (repeat never) popular, but zone PvP used to be pretty healthy due to the freeform nature, rewards, and general parity. Altering the design to encourage buying or farming your way to victory turned off so much of the PvP crowd that those that were left ended up with nobody to lord their new gazillion inf builds over, and no functional difference in AT or powerset stengths or weaknesses to encourage teaming or vary the fights.

PvP these days is basically hit/hold/run repeatedly. In short, it's not only expensive, but its boring.

Wierd.

I have played a ton of games and MMO's, and PVP is always broken. Or at least that is what everyone in every game has ever said since the beginning of PVP.

I think Chess is the only game where PVP is ok. Maybe Checkers. But other than that, PVP is broken in every game.

I wanna take my illusion/FF Troller into PVP eventually though. Mainly because she is so rediculously built that losing will be easy, but when I win....man that person will feel pretty crappy. I wont even need to trash talk...the build does it for me.

I'd say of the older zones being ignored also has to do with more people having an easier time to get to 50.

I think most people would prefere to PvP at level 50, than exemp down, lose their powers and PvP at lvl 25.

Add on, the casual PvPer doesn't want to make two builds. They'd rather put the effort into one build, and use their influence on another toon.

And of course every one always says PvP is broken, because people migrate towards the FotM builds, and while they won't be the only builds they see in Zones, they see why they're FotM and really they don't want to be limited to playing that limited selection to feel competitive.

Also, some people just can't stand to lose. PvP attitudes are a lot of the time just rediculously bad (at least in zones).

It may not be the majority of PvPers, but I know I run into more obnoxious players when in PvP Zones, then when I'm on failing teams in PvE.

PvP will in CoH will improve when a players character can feel in PvP like it does in PvE.

Um, I would never think zone PvP was for 'fun' unless I was doing the traditional, Stalker jerk hide spike-kill unsuspecting lowbie, or wait until some guy has an opponent down to 2% health and Kill-steal on him (I can't think of an occasion where I was in zone PvP where this did not happen to me, and thus, I no longer participate in this kind of silliness.). Those would not be 'fun' in my book.

Fun PvP, to me, would be challenging someone on an even playing field to see who could win the round. The Arenas are the only place this is available.