I19 Transit Merger Additional Tweaks


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james_joyce was kind enough to post this image from the NYCC presentation


I think the UI image looks great, but I instantly thought, "they could do more" and really hit it out of the park. Since I19 isn't even in Closed Beta yet, I wanted to post this while it was fresh in my head in hopes they would get a chance to maybe pull this off.

Step 1- Add Facilities markers
Seeing the level range for each zone is great. It would also be great to see icons that denote Tailor, Auction, University next to the stop they are closest to. It should be for things that are unique to some zones and not others. No point in marking stores, hospitals, trainers, etc.

Step 2- Don't forget the Black Chopper Line!
No specific mention has been made of the Villain side Black Choppers and whether they will be getting a merger too. I hope they do, but I wanted to put the reminder in place now. Additionally, and this is probably the most unrealistic of my requests for Issue 19 time window, but consider adding a Black Chopper stop to the North end of Nerva Archipelago, and the Southern end of Mercy Isle. One requires adding a Chopper in Nerva, but the other one simply means connecting a portal and adding a pilot to one of the Choppers parked at Fort Cerebus.

Step 3- For the Future
This one is just a tossed in idea for a future issue. Create a combined interface like this for Supergroup Teleporter systems!!!!!


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Step 3- For the Future
This one is just a tossed in idea for a future issue. Create a combined interface like this for Supergroup Teleporter systems!!!!!


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I'll stand behind step 1. as its a pain to remember where everything is in the different zones sometimes (especially when you spend all your time on 1 side, then have to swap to another for some reason or another)


 

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Step 2- Don't forget the Black Chopper Line!
No specific mention has been made of the Villain side Black Choppers and whether they will be getting a merger too. I hope they do, but I wanted to put the reminder in place now. Additionally, and this is probably the most unrealistic of my requests for Issue 19 time window, but consider adding a Black Chopper stop to the North end of Nerva Archipelago, and the Southern end of Mercy Isle. One requires adding a Chopper in Nerva, but the other one simply means connecting a portal and adding a pilot to one of the Choppers parked at Fort Cerebus.
Doesn't Fort Cerebus already have a Black Chopper, by Seer Marino, that goes to Cap au Diablo?


 

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Doesn't Fort Cerebus already have a Black Chopper, by Seer Marino, that goes to Cap au Diablo?
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Sorry I get the fort names mixed up. I meant the fort where you start as a villain.


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Sorry I get the fort names mixed up. I meant the fort where you start as a villain.
Fort Darwin.

I seem to remember at some point shortly after CoV's launch one of the "helicopters" there actually had a Black line dialog box. If you clicked it, it had only one option: Mercy Island. If you clicked that, nothing would happen and the dialog would close. Didn't last long, though.


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Fort Darwin.

I seem to remember at some point shortly after CoV's launch one of the "helicopters" there actually had a Black line dialog box. If you clicked it, it had only one option: Mercy Island. If you clicked that, nothing would happen and the dialog would close. Didn't last long, though.
I'd have to check but last I knew it was still there and could be used to switch instances of the zone.


 

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Fort Darwin.

I seem to remember at some point shortly after CoV's launch one of the "helicopters" there actually had a Black line dialog box. If you clicked it, it had only one option: Mercy Island. If you clicked that, nothing would happen and the dialog would close. Didn't last long, though.
That helicopter was for just after CoV launch, or really whenever Mercy Isle is likely to split into multiple shards. It was an easy way for new villains to hop from Mercy 1 to Mercy 2 if they got split from their friends.

That's actually the one I was thinking they could turn into a True Black Chopper station.


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Step 2- Don't forget the Black Chopper Line!
No specific mention has been made of the Villain side Black Choppers and whether they will be getting a merger too. I hope they do, but I wanted to put the reminder in place now. Additionally, and this is probably the most unrealistic of my requests for Issue 19 time window, but consider adding a Black Chopper stop to the North end of Nerva Archipelago, and the Southern end of Mercy Isle. One requires adding a Chopper in Nerva, but the other one simply means connecting a portal and adding a pilot to one of the Choppers parked at Fort Cerebus.

Perhaps a second helicopter can be added to Grandville, next to the Fab, near the sub entrance to Monster Island as well.


 

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I just finished watching the NYCC panel video and of note, some one did ask during the Q&A about the Black Chopper line being merge and War Witch said she believe they were.


 

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Wish the Black Choppers in Mercy had two options;
-Mercy (Fort Darwin)
-Mercy (Fort Cerberus)

That way, it would cut out the horrible travel from North to South that is oh too prevelant at low levels. Especially because the hospital is all the way back at the start.
Other than that? Looks good.


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james_joyce was kind enough to post this image from the NYCC presentation


I think the UI image looks great, but I instantly thought, "they could do more" and really hit it out of the park. Since I19 isn't even in Closed Beta yet, I wanted to post this while it was fresh in my head in hopes they would get a chance to maybe pull this off.

Step 1- Add Facilities markers
Seeing the level range for each zone is great. It would also be great to see icons that denote Tailor, Auction, University next to the stop they are closest to. It should be for things that are unique to some zones and not others. No point in marking stores, hospitals, trainers, etc.

Step 2- Don't forget the Black Chopper Line!
No specific mention has been made of the Villain side Black Choppers and whether they will be getting a merger too. I hope they do, but I wanted to put the reminder in place now. Additionally, and this is probably the most unrealistic of my requests for Issue 19 time window, but consider adding a Black Chopper stop to the North end of Nerva Archipelago, and the Southern end of Mercy Isle. One requires adding a Chopper in Nerva, but the other one simply means connecting a portal and adding a pilot to one of the Choppers parked at Fort Cerebus.

Step 3- For the Future
This one is just a tossed in idea for a future issue. Create a combined interface like this for Supergroup Teleporter systems!!!!!
They also say that Mish that use the Mono Rail, will have a star next to it, to help you find it more easy, Alao i was at the Panel and I think that my big head in the Picture lol.


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I just finished watching the NYCC panel video and of note, some one did ask during the Q&A about the Black Chopper line being merge and War Witch said she believe they were.
Thanks Shadow, thats good to know. I hope they consider the added stops we're talking about here though. I plan to PM the link for this thread to Ocho tomorrow.

Techbot- yes, thats exactly the setup I was talking about for Mercy.


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I just finished watching the NYCC panel video and of note, some one did ask during the Q&A about the Black Chopper line being merge and War Witch said she believe they were.
And someone else on the panel chimed in to agree that the BHs are also merged.

There are three BH lines live:

Fort Darwin zone selector (it only goes to itself)

Fort Cerberus <-> Cap au Diable (by the entrance to Bloody Bay)

<-> Nerva <-> St. Martial <-> Grandville <->


Here's a graphic representation of the three Ferry and the three BH lines as they currently exist:



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Good news, thanks Zombie. Looks like that will get the added stop in North Mercy. I still hope they can find it in their schedule to add a stop in Nerva North. With all these QoL mergers, that will be the one of the biggest backwaters left in the game, considering the amount of content out there.

What do people think about the Facilities indicator idea? It's not that important for veterans, but I think it would be a boon to new/casual/returning players, not to mention people who normally play the opposite side.


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What do people think about the Facilities indicator idea? It's not that important for veterans, but I think it would be a boon to new/casual/returning players, not to mention people who normally play the opposite side.
From the slides I see, I already have a concern with the busy-ness of the interface because of the level ranges. Having a slew of icons next to each city name is only going to exacerbate that, IMO.

Consider a newbie who wants to go to a tailor. They look at the interface and choose the lowest zone with a tailor -- now, should they go to Steel North or South? If they chose South and see the Tailor is at the North end of the map, they can use the tram to hop up there. Then they have to pass level 15-20 foes to get to the Tailor.

If they asked in chat, they'd be told to go to the RWZ.

It would be better for the help interface to list where amenities are rather than try to find them on the city selector.


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I suppose that's true. Part of my original post that may not have been clear though was I meant for the icons to be only next to the stops they are closest to. So the Icon icon (snrk) would only be next to Steel North, while WW and the Uni would be listed on Steel South.

Maybe you're right about newbies, but I guess I'm in the position where I feel some easily accessible info is more helpful than some buried ultra detailed info. If such were the alternative, I'd say do both.


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I'm going to second the "no, too busy" dissent against #1. It's your city: learn it, or read a map.
Use the maps we have that are cluttered with so many dots that you can't see the ground unless you zoom in in some cases? Sorry, just don't see 1-3 dots of varying colors to be too busy, especially in comparison to some of the other UI elements we deal with regularly.

We're talking about QoL changes here. If they had the attitude you've stated, they wouldn't be doing a merger at all.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me that they could implement this feature in the same way they filter the dots on the minimap. Select for them to be off because you don't like the clutter or dont need them, but let them be there for the people who'd like the info.


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A big yes to adding BH to north Nerva, and add north St. Martial to that too.

They're currently located at the ferries in most of the zones they're in, making them redundant, and both Nerva and St. Martial have both located at the far end from the most interesting things such as Primeva and the casinos.

Facilities info would be excellent too, particularly for the vaunted newbie they're trying to attract.

Let me add to the suggestions that PVP zones need easier access.


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I still hope they can find it in their schedule to add a stop in Nerva North. With all these QoL mergers, that will be the one of the biggest backwaters left in the game, considering the amount of content out there.
It'd be nice if there was a CoT-style teleporter that took you out by Technician Naylor. Have it set up near the ferry, walk in the ring, and it zips you up north.

A little like what they have in the Shadow Shard.

Barring that, a helicopter or alternate ferry drop would be fine.


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My thought was a BH drop spot next to Arbiter Leery That way we're not creating a "new" transit system (the portal) and we're going to a more central location that is a short hop to Agincourt, Primeva, or Thorn Isle.


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Originally Posted by Massively dot Com
Ancillary and patron power pools are currently not planned for customization, either with alternate animations or color, but they are being looked into. The helicopters will not see unification like the monorails and ferries. While there will be three more available powers when Fitness becomes an inherent pool, no additonal enchancement slots will be added.
I had not caught this before until tonight, but Massively had that tidbit posted in their article on the NYCC.