Bubbles please

Why does every thread on a defender/corruptor set have to turn into a childish flame war full of personal insults because someone said something less than positive about powers in a video game?

those defender "look at my set!" threads are actually pretty funny to watch.

kinda like "my dad can fix boo-boos better than your dad"

Look! Dismissive two-sentence troll!

That statement would have hurt me, but my forcefield deflected it.

Oh wait .. I only had the Corruptor version which doesn't exist.

Oh well maybe I will need that empath after all. Or pain in this case.

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Side question: Does it hurt when a /pain type heals you?

I don't think Corruptors had Force Fields to start because the set lacked debuffs. Looking at the original sets for Corruptors, they didn't get any sets that weren't a combination of buffs and debuffs (TA, Empathy, and FF), and got replacement sets that were similar to at least two of the sets they didn't get (Thermal and Cold). I don't think it had anything to do with not being villainous enough, since MMs got it.

As for why they don't have it now, I think a large part of the reason is the current design of the set. Not what it does, but how it does it. Looking at the effects, and using the same modifiers, Corruptor FF would be almost a duplicate of the MM version in the values of effects most people care about.

Corr PFF would actually give less defense and resistance than the MM version because of the melee modifier it uses.

Deflection Shield would be the same.

Force Bolt would do more damage for Corrs, but do the same amount of KB as MMs.

Insulation Shield would give the same Defense, but Corrs would grant 17.2% more end drain and recovery debuff resistance.

Detention Field would be the same.

Dispersion Bubble would be the same Defense, but Corrs would get 1.72 more protection from mez at 50.

Repulsion Field would be the same.

Repulsion Bomb would do more damage for Corrs, but do the same amount of KB and have the same duration on the Stun.

Force Bubble would be the same.

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First, with Powerset Proliferation there is no reason why Force Fields would not eventually make its way to Corruptors, and I fully expect it will. It just hasn't happened yet.

Second, while the devs have never made a direct statement one way or the other, I have noted in the past that of the three Power Sets Corruptors were not given access to, two of them, Empathy and Force Field, have absolutely no way to buff the damage of the caster. EVERY other Power Set available to Corruptors can either buff the caster's damage, or debuff the Resistance of the foe. This includes even other primarily support oriented sets like Cold Domination and Thermal.

It was my conclusion, and it still is, that a Buff/Debuff set that lacks any form of damage boost is inappropriate for a Corruptor. In short, you would be giving a Secondary to an AT that does not in any way support the use of its Primary. The melee ATs support their Primary by providing defenses that they can use to survive in melee. Blasters support their Primary by using control powers that they can hold down the foes they either blast with their Primary or use the melee powers in their Secondary against. Even Defenders and Dominators support their Primary by providing a means to defeat the foes they weaken or control. But for a Corruptor, whose primary role is supposed to be dealing damage, Force Field would only protect allies, (to a lesser extent the caster) or provide some knockback for control.

Of course, the true reason was that Force Field and Trick Arrow were given to Masterminds. And Trick Arrow doesn't lack damage boosts (it has two!) yet it is limited to Masterminds as well. I think it was simply the devs wanted some sets to be unique to MMs and some unique to Corruptors, and they chose FF and TA for the MMs. FF made for a good match with Robotics, while TA meshed well with Ninjas.

Still, I think it's significant that Force Field is as powerful as it is in the hands of a Mastermind. It is the set most suitable for Tankerminding, despite the fact that its defense is primarily applicable only to the henchmen. (This is mainly because Bodyguard provides a strong pseudo-Resistance on top of Dispersion Bubble's Defense) And the lack of damage isn't really noticable, since the Mastermind's strength is not in damage dealing, but resiliance.

The final point, I think, is that when Pain Domination was finally created for Corruptors and Masterminds, as their version of Empathy, the set included some powerful damage boosts for the caster. Many of them require teammates, which doesn't really help solo, but it does reinforce the Corruptor's role as a damage dealer for a team.

I am hopeful that should Force Field eventually come out for Corruptors, that it will recieve some tweaks that boost damage. (Or debuff Resistance, although since that's Sonic's forte', I would stick with +Dam) Again, like Pain Resistance, those boosts could be limited to the caster only, not extended to the team. Although I have suggested a +Dam effect for the team for powers like Force Bubble, to make them more attractive. And that could be applied to the existing ATs as well.

I can care less if Corruptor gets force field.

I only want /Poison!

Arcana is just trying to thwart my attempts to have all Fire sets renamed to Super Mega Secret Time-Traveling Negative-Regeneration Power!™

Well played Arcana... Well played...

I'll get you... And your little dog too!

So, instead -Regen would be a case of "Retcon: You DID NOT Heal That Beforehand Power".

Somehow it lacks the same pizazz.

le sigh

Anyway... bubbles, bubbles... who's got the bubbles?