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I'm at 4th ave and Union - when I came home, there was this weird black dust scattered straight from the front window to the back window. I have no idea what it was. But I have a railroad-style apartment, so I think the wind was just whipping whatever was outside straight through.|
Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
...would make a great character name.
Shouts out to any one else here in the BK that lived through this tonight. Crazy mess out on those streets. Be safe, y'all. Edit: Oh and props to the FDNY for digging us out of this roof ripper. |
Union street has a few fewer trees, too.
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There was a tornado in Brooklyn? Holy frijole!
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About four blocks from me, 7 roofs torn off of brownstones--5 in a row, skipped two roofs and a gap--then got 2 more. Dumped em on some poor saps truck a block and a half away.
4 FDNY trucks outside checking the structural integrity of all 7 buildings and getting them ready for tarps. All evacuated for the night from the chatter on the street.
Eager to see helicopter images tomorrow to see if there is a clear discernible path.
If I ever catch the rogue storm 'troller that did this... /fistpalm
I just passed a tornado on Interstate 79. It was in the left hand lane, heading towards a bison farm. Granted, I didn't know what it was at the time. By the time I got to my meeting, the sirens were wailing and we hid in the basement. It was my first tornado siren--we don't usually get them farther north where I live.
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Loads of fun. I was driving home and hoping I got home before any significant rain started. Five minutes after I got inside, the weather went berserk. They say the rain was coming down at a rate of 5 inches per hour - luckily it only lasted 25 minutes.
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Second one we've had in three years. Lots of trees down, lots of houses damaged. No such thing as global warming or dangerous weather patterns!
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I wonder what they rated that tornado? I would probably estimate an F1 possibly an F2. But then, I haven't seen the damage and it's not my area of expertise.|
Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
About four blocks from me, 7 roofs torn off of brownstones--5 in a row, skipped two roofs and a gap--then got 2 more. Dumped em on some poor saps truck a block and a half away.
4 FDNY trucks outside checking the structural integrity of all 7 buildings and getting them ready for tarps. All evacuated for the night from the chatter on the street. Eager to see helicopter images tomorrow to see if there is a clear discernible path. If I ever catch the rogue storm 'troller that did this... /fistpalm |
I have seen the leftovers from an F3 on a few occasions. Spend a year in Tornado Alley and you'll get an eyeful...of mud if you keep them open during a storm.
There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
Here's an entertaining account of it, including the fact that apparently at some point it was raining horseshoe crabs.
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It rains frogs, why not horseshoe crabs? You know, tornadoes enjoy a good swim just as much as tourists. Maybe it thought having horseshoe crabs as pets would be groovy, then changed up its mind later.
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Originally Posted by james_joyce
Here's an entertaining account of it, including the fact that apparently at some point it was raining horseshoe crabs.
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I saw that. First as pictures on someone else's flicker site. And then that very blog entry and video.|
Originally Posted by james_joyce
Here's an entertaining account of it, including the fact that apparently at some point it was raining horseshoe crabs.
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The amazing thing for folks not familiar with Brooklyn, depending upon the path of the tornado, those horseshoe crabs fell on a neighborhood that is at least 1.5 to 2 miles from the water!!!
Woke up today to see at the NYTimes site that the weather service finally confirmed that it was indeed 2 tornadoes that cut through the corner of Staten Island, right through NW Brooklyn (straight through the middle of my 'hood) and then continued up into Queens and then on to Long Island before petering out.
Here's a damage map posted in the times yesterday. Once I saw that I said it had to be a twister if not several.
There is an eyewitness account of a tree getting torn off, blown down the the nearest intersection then lifted about 30 feet in the sky where it was held and spun. Supposedly it that tree collided with a garbage can which was batted a block away then flattened against a wall.
Amazing. Sad for those 2000+ trees and people whose property and homes got tore up. But absolutely awe inspiring.
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No idea. Still haven't seen that. But having lived through it I can confirm that it came and went. All the damage was done in the course of 10 minutes at most from when the winds really kicked in to when they died back down.|
Originally Posted by Twisted Toon
I wonder what they rated that tornado? I would probably estimate an F1 possibly an F2. But then, I haven't seen the damage and it's not my area of expertise.
I have seen the leftovers from an F3 on a few occasions. Spend a year in Tornado Alley and you'll get an eyeful...of mud if you keep them open during a storm. |
Turns out some of the roofs that got ripped off in the path of the storm tore off not just the roofing material but the roofing joists followed by the drop studs and plaster and lathe of the ceiling of the top floor several feet below. Those 18' to 22' long joist beams are several hundred pounds a piece. No idea if the buildings that got that damaged were the same as what I saw near my home, but there are eyewitness accounts from tenants in top apartments hearing terrible noises and then seeing nothing but sky and rain in their bedrooms and kitchens.
Keep in mind that the architecture here is so consistent and so much of it adjoined that aerodynamically the roofline is likely more like the top of a hill (or perhaps a small mesa with narrow canyons between). So the get at that building material below the roof, the storm had to not just tear off but suck up.
While it may not compare to the F5 that was Terrible Tuesday (thank the makers), it was pretty strong and by far stronger than anything NYC has seen in a long long time.
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Second one we've had in three years. Lots of trees down, lots of houses damaged. No such thing as global warming or dangerous weather patterns!
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Note: I'm not arguing global warming, nor should we go down that route, I'm just saying tornadoes have nothing to do with it
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Was just talking to someone about that the other day. And they pointed out that the once freakishly rare "arctic oscillation" which pushes cold air out of the arctic and circulates warm air within, which may become more common as the north becomes more and more ice free during the summers, has contributed to how far south and east the dip in the jetstream has shifted. This is part of what is keeping the two Atlantic hurricanes out in the Atlantic. The warmth from the south and the cold from the north is what made the perfect recipe for a tornado to form here where it usually doesn't.|
Originally Posted by Zikar
Just an FYI, (from what I've heard) tornadoes work on a totally different weather system to global warming...
Note: I'm not arguing global warming, nor should we go down that route, I'm just saying tornadoes have nothing to do with it |
IF the AO did somehow significantly contribute to these dynamics and IF the AO becomes a more regular recurring phenomena (like El Niño in the central Pacific), the American northeast may see more storms with tornadoes in the coming century (or decades even). Frankly, I'd rather not see another storm like that here. I plan on being here in Brooklyn at least another 20 years, so I have every hope that this is NOT related to climate change but just a freak statistical occurrence.
But, this other person's understanding of the dynamics sounded plausible enough to be rather convincing that we might see a marked uptick of these events. For my tastes, a storm like this hitting the city even once a decade would be too frequent. Many of these buildings, especially the century+ old ones, were not built or designed with these sort of hazards in mind.
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just like California buildings and homes are built to withstand Earthquakes, homes in Tornado Alley are built to withstand tornadoes. Are the homes therein NY built the same way? or are they built to withstand other things, like heavier loads of snow? That could make a difference in how easily a roof can be ripped off a house. I'm not belittling the damage done or anything. But, I'm sure that would (or should) factor into the F-rating of the tornado.
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Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
No idea. Still haven't seen that. But having lived through it I can confirm that it came and went. All the damage was done in the course of 10 minutes at most from when the winds really kicked in to when they died back down.
Turns out some of the roofs that got ripped off in the path of the storm tore off not just the roofing material but the roofing joists followed by the drop studs and plaster and lathe of the ceiling of the top floor several feet below. Those 18' to 22' long joist beams are several hundred pounds a piece. No idea if the buildings that got that damaged were the same as what I saw near my home, but there are eyewitness accounts from tenants in top apartments hearing terrible noises and then seeing nothing but sky and rain in their bedrooms and kitchens. Keep in mind that the architecture here is so consistent and so much of it adjoined that aerodynamically the roofline is likely more like the top of a hill (or perhaps a small mesa with narrow canyons between). So the get at that building material below the roof, the storm had to not just tear off but suck up. While it may not compare to the F5 that was Terrible Tuesday (thank the makers), it was pretty strong and by far stronger than anything NYC has seen in a long long time. |
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Originally Posted by Zikar
Just an FYI, (from what I've heard) tornadoes work on a totally different weather system to global warming...
Note: I'm not arguing global warming, nor should we go down that route, I'm just saying tornadoes have nothing to do with it |
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Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
Was just talking to someone about that the other day. And they pointed out that the once freakishly rare "arctic oscillation" which pushes cold air out of the arctic and circulates warm air within, which may become more common as the north becomes more and more ice free during the summers, has contributed to how far south and east the dip in the jetstream has shifted. This is part of what is keeping the two Atlantic hurricanes out in the Atlantic. The warmth from the south and the cold from the north is what made the perfect recipe for a tornado to form here where it usually doesn't.
IF the AO did somehow significantly contribute to these dynamics and IF the AO becomes a more regular recurring phenomena (like El Niño in the central Pacific), the American northeast may see more storms with tornadoes in the coming century (or decades even). Frankly, I'd rather not see another storm like that here. I plan on being here in Brooklyn at least another 20 years, so I have every hope that this is NOT related to climate change but just a freak statistical occurrence. But, this other person's understanding of the dynamics sounded plausible enough to be rather convincing that we might see a marked uptick of these events. For my tastes, a storm like this hitting the city even once a decade would be too frequent. Many of these buildings, especially the century+ old ones, were not built or designed with these sort of hazards in mind. |
Either way, all I know is... I'm used to Hurricanes and massive snow storms, this Tornado thing is outrageous. Not something I want to get used to.
The damage in such a short amount of time was awe inspiring to say the least. And the sheer amount of rain dropped in twenty five minutes was ridiculous.
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It was weird to see some of the stuff that got picked up and thrown to the wrong places
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Here's a video that was shot by some guys who were near the middle it: Brooklyn Tornado 9/16/10. (AKA the "Bronado Video". Warning, contains strong bro language.)
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Shouts out to any one else here in the BK that lived through this tonight. Crazy mess out on those streets. Be safe, y'all.
Edit: Oh and props to the FDNY for digging us out of this roof ripper.