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I guess you would need some sort of crappy combo that will be x10's better with purples.
I dont know of any crappy combos.
an illusion controller of some kind would be a good candidate as would a warshade.
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Originally Posted by Lohenien
an illusion controller of some kind would be a good candidate as would a warshade.
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So - 2 votes for warshade. I had (have one). Could see the potential, but couldn't get into it.
Ill/* Controller... Ill/Rad?
Thoughts?
Ideas?
Builds?
The not so casual, Warshade
Purple out a Fire/Emp. Great deal of fun and costs a bunch.
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How about a Fortunata? They benefit greatly from the recharge boost found in purples due to wanting perma-Mind Link (as well as the general benefits fo high recharge), and there's plenty of different types of powers to put purples in: Melee Damage, Ranged Damage, PBAoE, TAoE, Hold, Confuse and Stun (plus whatever the patron pools might add, I forget as all I take is Gloom 
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A while back I was looking into what it would take for permanent Phantom Army on a controller which did not have +Recharge in its secondary. That turned out to be the most purple build I have designed so far.
I'd never spend that much on a build myself, but if you want expensive while putting each purple set in a power where it is actually beneficial...
Illusion Control / Force Field / Stone Mastery, + fitness/speed/fighting pools.
Apocalypse in Spectral Wounds,
Hecatomb in Seismic Smash,
Ragnarok in Fissure,
Unbreakable Constraint in Blind,
Coercive Persuasion in Deceive,
Absolute Amazement (only Chance for ToHit debuff) in Fissure,
Five LotG +Recharge in various defensive powers,
Four of those defense powers also got five each Red Fortune for more recharge boost,
Force Bolt got sixslotted Kinetic Crash for 51.2 knockback combined with the recharge bonus (when I designed that character I believed that Archvillains had just 50 points of knockback protection, that was incorrect so you might skip that part).
48.4% smashing/lethal defense, 30.3% psionic, 25.3% to all others, capped HP thanks to permanent Earth's Embrace.
59 second recharge on Phantom Army, 116.3 on Hasten with only two slots.
I don't recall why I didn't use the purple pet set in either Phantom Army or Phantasm, probably because I was going for maximum recharge and those did not give that bonus whereas the recharge intensive pet set did.
You could slot five of the Stun set in Boxing too, my sample build didn't since Phantom Army was already perma. I didn't put any PvP sets in it either, even though the build was just for fun, so you can get a lot more expensive by using those of course. Sorry about not giving the Mid's build but I edited my Mid's database a bit recently (looking ahead towards changes currently on test/issue 19) and I am not sure the build would be compatible.
My Warshade had 7 purple sets (Though not all part of each set for bonus purposes) and I think that makes the best use.
Most other characters I can make really great without purples, but with the massive slot crunch on Warshades I think purples give them slightly more help than other toons.
However: I always thought this was the reason you lot made so much money? Are you telling me that some of you are sitting on billions and haven't purpled out every toon you own? - No wonder you are stil sitting on billions!
Edit: If you are looking for ways to throw inf into making a build godly, as opposed to ways of using purples (Which aren't the most expensive things in the game by far), I would look into a Fire or Dark or Elec/Shield scrapper. They are going to make heavy use of PvP IO's, purples, uniques, HO's and pretty much all the expensive things you can imagine.
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Pretty much any permadom can make good use of at least 6 sets of purples (the pet set has different bonuses). With inherent fitness in I19, that would be a stealth pool full of LotG 7.5s. That's a pretty good start.
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| Are you telling me that some of you are sitting on billions and haven't purpled out every toon you own? - No wonder you are stil sitting on billions! |
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That's my vote as well. Shield scrappers can become extremely expensive - in the 10-15B range easily without massive use of purples. Example:|
Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Edit: If you are looking for ways to throw inf into making a build godly, as opposed to ways of using purples (Which aren't the most expensive things in the game by far), I would look into a Fire or Dark or Elec/Shield scrapper. They are going to make heavy use of PvP IO's, purples, uniques, HO's and pretty much all the expensive things you can imagine.
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Very Expensive Electric/Shield
3.64 end/sec recovery, .92 end/sec consumption
274% regen
102.5% +recharge
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Electric-Shield- Very Expensive: Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Hectmb-Dam%(5)
Level 1: Deflection -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(7), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(7), GA-3defTpProc(9)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(11), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11), LkGmblr-Def(27)
Level 4: True Grit -- Panac-Heal/+End(A), Panac-Heal(13), Panac-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(15), Panac-Heal/Rchg(21), Panac-Heal/EndRedux(21)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 8: Thunder Strike -- Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(15), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Armgdn-Dam%(17), FrcFbk-Rechg%(19)
Level 10: Active Defense -- HO:Enzym(A)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-ResKB(34), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(42)
Level 16: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal(40), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(45), RgnTis-Regen+(46)
Level 18: Chain Induction -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mako-Dam%(25)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(29), P'Shift-End%(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(43), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 22: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-Build%(27), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(31), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(34)
Level 28: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 30: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(33), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(39)
Level 38: Weave -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(42), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(42), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(45), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Apoc-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(48), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Ragnrk-Knock%(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
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I have 2 fully IOed with sets builds.|
Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Are you telling me that some of you are sitting on billions and haven't purpled out every toon you own? - No wonder you are stil sitting on billions!
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I have something like 15 50s.
I find slotting toons to be incredibly tedious while making money is fun.
For example; the other day I thought I'd like to slot up my fire/mm blaster with some level 30-33 sets but then I realized that's an awful lot of slots when I'll be replacing them somewhere down the road.
Most of my toons do however have as many LoTGs as they can hold and the miracle and numina globals. So it isn't that I hate spending money I just hate slotting mass quantities of things.
Or my Spines/Fire I recently respecced. I have billions but I respecced him to use level 50 commons instead. Commons are buyable in mass quantity, are cheap, and they involve very little thought.
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Ah-HA! And here we find the greatest example of what I consider to be "purpling for the sake of purpling".|
Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
That's my vote as well. Shield scrappers can become extremely expensive - in the 10-15B range easily without massive use of purples. Example:
Very Expensive Electric/Shield 3.64 end/sec recovery, .92 end/sec consumption 274% regen 102.5% +recharge |
Its a great build Fury! But I did it already for under 800 mil (estimated value - I had the LotG procs from other characters who purchased them with merits). With no purples
And I have more recharge. The differences between the build is incredibly minor when considering the cost involved. The 2 major differences are you have more AoE def and the Blaze pool. I took body mastery to be able to hit +3's and such. So that's probably a wash. Though I may look into Blaze... more AoE is always tasty.
Here's my thinking on what this AT should potentially be:
It should be an AT that is much better if built for something other than recharge.
It should have a variety of effects on its powers to allow for the most sets to be slotted.
It should not be a warshade. I'm just pulling these from the table. I just can't get into playing them. I wish I could, but I can't.
Thanks for all of the suggestions!
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Not me! I've IO'd out dozens of toons -- five of them with significant purple investment. I really like coming up with a good build, buying and slotting everything needed for it, and then playing those toons!
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Are you telling me that some of you are sitting on billions and haven't purpled out every toon you own? - No wonder you are still sitting on billions!
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I assure you that the differences in your build and the one posted are not minor. Is it worth the cost? Maybe not. However, your OP asked for an opulent build and I provided one. |
Originally Posted by Misaligned
Its a great build Fury! But I did it already for under 800 mil (estimated value - I had the LotG procs from other characters who purchased them with merits). With no purples
And I have more recharge. The differences between the build is incredibly minor when considering the cost involved. The 2 major differences are you have more AoE def and the Blaze pool. I took body mastery to be able to hit +3's and such. So that's probably a wash. Though I may look into Blaze... more AoE is always tasty. |
The build I provided is seconds away from perm hasten (I very much doubt you have more recharge - check if you have the Force Feedback proc and hasten enabled in your Mid's build - I turn both of those off), soft capped and has heaps of recovery and very respectable regen. The only thing it falls behind in is DDR. Accuracy, with all those purples is not an issue.
Cost wise, it's right what you're looking for: 2B+ for the Glad Armor IO alone, a couple more billion for the Panaceas, 5 LoTGs, all three health uniques, 4 sets of purples - only the expensive ones, and some pricey pieces like Obliteration quads, Enzymes, etc. In fact, if you want I can even load more cost into the build by using Shield Walls instead of LoTGs and throwing in the Basilik's quad or possibly throwing in the 3% resist all IO for another 1B.
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I second the D4...I have mine about 3/4 purpled out, and she kicks some serious ***!
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Originally Posted by preachmoore
dark/dark/dark defender for crazy recharge and non-stop fun
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Yep, I did not see that you turn hasten off (I don't run a FF proc in my build, so that's no issue). My bad on that - however, when we get to the "functionality" of adding purples and PvP IO's, the added cost really isn't that much better imo. I see difference in recharge rates on key powers. I always see that when adding purples to sets to see if they make it "better". |
Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
I assure you that the differences in your build and the one posted are not minor. Is it worth the cost? Maybe not. However, your OP asked for an opulent build and I provided one.
The build I provided is seconds away from perm hasten (I very much doubt you have more recharge - check if you have the Force Feedback proc and hasten enabled in your Mid's build - I turn both of those off), soft capped and has heaps of recovery and very respectable regen. The only thing it falls behind in is DDR. Accuracy, with all those purples is not an issue. Cost wise, it's right what you're looking for: 2B+ for the Glad Armor IO alone, a couple more billion for the Panaceas, 5 LoTGs, all three health uniques, 4 sets of purples - only the expensive ones, and some pricey pieces like Obliteration quads, Enzymes, etc. In fact, if you want I can even load more cost into the build by using Shield Walls instead of LoTGs and throwing in the Basilik's quad or possibly throwing in the 3% resist all IO for another 1B. |
To me, what you have there is spending money just to spend money. The investment of billions and billions will ultimately yield a character that isn't noticeably different than mine. This is what I am looking for - something that gets noticeably better when you add purples.
Here's the data chunk off my leveling build: He's not quite 50, and I haven't finalized a build for him yet, but this is what I am using for now:
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Thanks!
"Opulence, I has it!"
I was inspired last night. I am more inspired now.
I want to know which AT actually makes the best use of purples. Any AT and combo can use them, but most are wasted. I want to "be green" about this, so which AT and power set combo can actually put 5 (or 6 w/ pets) sets of purples to good use?
The project: Create a character that costs an obscene amount of money, but actually makes use of the money spent on it.
I plan on making this character, leveling it, then dropping a crap ton of money on it. I do intend to skip nearly all of the PvP IO's. 2 bil for 3% defense seems beyond too much... even for me.
I am open to any suggestions or ideas you might have!
Thanks!