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What to roll to ease into PVP

1_Hitta_Quitta

By 1_Hitta_Quitta,
Posted on: 2010-09-09 09:10 in Everything about PvP

 

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Ok,

So Ive decided after several 50s for pve that I need to get into pvp to have some excitement back.

Tryin to decide on some ideas. Played brutes, scrappers, corruptors, doms, mm and blasters.

Just trying to find something I can have some fun on get some kills not get 1 shotted non-stop and basiclly learn how to pvp. Im on Freedom. Just came back to the game and lookin to have some fun.

I dont mind expensive builds...heck something to work for. But Id like to give pvp an "honest" attempt this time.

Any suggestions/advice/help would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Originally Posted by maxtsorm View Post
Ok,

So Ive decided after several 50s for pve that I need to get into pvp to have some excitement back.

Tryin to decide on some ideas. Played brutes, scrappers, corruptors, doms, mm and blasters.

Just trying to find something I can have some fun on get some kills not get 1 shotted non-stop and basiclly learn how to pvp. Im on Freedom. Just came back to the game and lookin to have some fun.

I dont mind expensive builds...heck something to work for. But Id like to give pvp an "honest" attempt this time.

Any suggestions/advice/help would be greatly appreciated.
It sounds to me like you want a Peacebringer, but I am biased and think Kheldians are the supreme combination of alien and human.

Whoa! Did I just RP and answer? I think I kinda did.

 

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lol. I don't think he should start with a PB. maybe he can graduate to a PB, until then, use this! also say, "pew pew pew" in broadcast when you kill people.

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Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Psychic Blast
Secondary Power Set: Energy Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Psionic Dart -- Dev'n-Hold%(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), GJ-Acc/Dmg(5), GJ-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Power Thrust -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dam%(7), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(9), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(27)
Level 2: Mental Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), GJ-Acc/Dmg(15), GJ-Dam%(15)
Level 4: Telekinetic Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(19), GJ-Dam%(19), GJ-Acc/Dmg(21)
Level 6: Psychic Focus -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit(21), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(23), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(46), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 8: Will Domination -- Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(11), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(23), Apoc-Dam%(25), FtnHyp-Plct%(25)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 12: Psionic Lance -- Mantic-Acc/Dmg(A), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Mantic-Acc/ActRdx/Rng(31), Mantic-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(31), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), HO:Micro(33), HO:Micro(33), Clrty-Stlth(43)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(34)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36)
Level 22: Build Up -- AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit(36), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(36), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Zephyr-ResKB(37), Krma-ResKB(37), Ksmt-ToHit+(42), Winter-ResSlow(43)
Level 26: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), HO:Micro(37), HO:Micro(39)
Level 28: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(39)
Level 30: Tactics -- Rec'dRet-Pcptn(A), AdjTgt-ToHit(39), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(40), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(40), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(42), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 32: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(40)
Level 35: Boost Range -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(45), ImpArm-ResDam(45), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Krma-ResKB(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 47: Hoarfrost -- Numna-Heal/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(48), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 6: Ninja Run



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Personally, I recommend starting with a Pyro, as they seem easy to play for a beginner. Soldier too. Try to stay away from using a spy until you get a better handle on the game. Also, the difference between a good medic and a terrible medic is paper thin.

"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict

 

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yes, pyro or soldier, scout and demo can also be ok for starting at times

 

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Pyro...Soilder? Crabs?
WOW I got alot to learn

 

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Demomen are OP.

 

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Are crabs good in pvp? or Widows. I have a 50 widow now. and working a Crab up...mmmm...or are they "too complicated" for a noob like me?

 

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Crabs are no fun, I think you need a cream or special stuff to get rid of em.

 

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Originally Posted by Deus View Post
Crabs are no fun, I think you need a cream or special stuff to get rid of em.
Now thats funny...and true...

 

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Originally Posted by maxtsorm View Post

several 50s for pve.
What 50's do you already have since it appears you don't want to roll a Psy/EM Blaster. It may be possible that you can make a pvp build with one of ur pve toons

 

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Brute: ss/wp, stone/stone, DB/stone
Corruptor: Ice/Kin, Fire/Storm, Rad/Rad
Dom: Mind/Eng
Widow
Tank: Stone/Stone, WM/Inv, fire/fire
Controller: fire/kin, Grav/Rad
Scrapper: Fire/SD, BS/SD
Blaster: Fire/MM
MM: Bots/Dark

I think thats all of them. Just not sure what to do is all. Sorry for the headaches. ADHD sucks!

 

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Originally Posted by maxtsorm View Post
Brute: ss/wp, stone/stone, DB/stone
Corruptor: Ice/Kin, Fire/Storm, Rad/Rad
Dom: Mind/Eng
Widow
Tank: Stone/Stone, WM/Inv, fire/fire
Controller: fire/kin, Grav/Rad
Scrapper: Fire/SD, BS/SD
Blaster: Fire/MM
MM: Bots/Dark

I think thats all of them. Just not sure what to do is all. Sorry for the headaches. ADHD sucks!
a NW could work, although i haven't been able to come up with a cheap build.

bane's perform just as well and are much cheaper to build. and you get shatter/webnades.

you could also spec the mind/eng

Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.

 

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When I first started pvping my first pvp toon was a fire/energy blaster. You will be killed fairly easily but the thing is you should rely on sneak ranged attacks with aim and BU tho blasters damage isnt what it was before the major pvp changes. Another good toon to start on is a regen scrapper or stalker. You will get kills, and be harder to kill, Imo a stalker takes a bit of "know how" tho since it plays differently than any other toon.

 

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Originally Posted by PC_guy View Post
a NW could work, although i haven't been able to come up with a cheap build.

bane's perform just as well and are much cheaper to build. and you get shatter/webnades.

you could also spec the mind/eng
wait did banes get buffed in pvp? I remmber them being no where near NW

 

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Originally Posted by Dz131 View Post
wait did banes get buffed in pvp? I remmber them being no where near NW
NW took a big hit when elusivity got nerfed.


I wouldn't roll a regen though atleast at first, you develop alot of bad habits.

Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.

 

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Originally Posted by PC_guy View Post
NW took a big hit when elusivity got nerfed.


I wouldn't roll a regen though atleast at first, you develop alot of bad habits.
Oh. wow that sucks, so spiders didn't actaully change it was widows that got nerfed

 

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I think the best role to start yourself off in PvP is definitely a blaster.

Psy/EM Fire/EM or Sonic/EM would be the way I'd go. (Personally I enjoy my Fire/EM more in zones than I do my Psy/EM, though the Psy is a much better arena toon)

As a blaster you're forced to play defensive and mind your surroundings. And if you can learn to play defensive/evade in zones even with stupid things like HD and TS on you'll be in good shape to play other AT's.

Fire/MM is workable but boost range is just too good to pass up.

 

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id go with your mind/energy dom.....

50 fire/dev--50 dark/thug--50 earth/storm--50 fire/regen--50 earth/thorn--50 kin/rad
50 TA/archery--50 stone/mace--50 Rad/em--50 Cold/Energy--48 dark/elec--50 grav/rad--45 SOA--40 PB--46 Bs/Fire--50 Ar/Dev--50 Trapz/Dark--50 elec/em tank--50 elec/earth--50 Ghostwidow--50 elec/Therm--50 cold/dark

 

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I agree with PC and crop. that mind/nrg is capable of doing nasty things. Especially if the person you are attacking doesn't have enough KB prot. You also dont see a million of them running around too.

 

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Originally Posted by Deus View Post
lol. I don't think he should start with a PB. maybe he can graduate to a PB, until then, use this! also say, "pew pew pew" in broadcast when you kill people.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.803
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Psychic Blast
Secondary Power Set: Energy Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Psionic Dart -- Dev'n-Hold%(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), GJ-Acc/Dmg(5), GJ-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Power Thrust -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dam%(7), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(9), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(27)
Level 2: Mental Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), GJ-Acc/Dmg(15), GJ-Dam%(15)
Level 4: Telekinetic Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(19), GJ-Dam%(19), GJ-Acc/Dmg(21)
Level 6: Psychic Focus -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit(21), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(23), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(46), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 8: Will Domination -- Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(11), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(23), Apoc-Dam%(25), FtnHyp-Plct%(25)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 12: Psionic Lance -- Mantic-Acc/Dmg(A), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Mantic-Acc/ActRdx/Rng(31), Mantic-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(31), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), HO:Micro(33), HO:Micro(33), Clrty-Stlth(43)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(34)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36)
Level 22: Build Up -- AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit(36), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(36), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Zephyr-ResKB(37), Krma-ResKB(37), Ksmt-ToHit+(42), Winter-ResSlow(43)
Level 26: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), HO:Micro(37), HO:Micro(39)
Level 28: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(39)
Level 30: Tactics -- Rec'dRet-Pcptn(A), AdjTgt-ToHit(39), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(40), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(40), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(42), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 32: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(40)
Level 35: Boost Range -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(45), ImpArm-ResDam(45), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Krma-ResKB(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 47: Hoarfrost -- Numna-Heal/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(48), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 6: Ninja Run



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yeah, i wouldn't waste a slot for slotting the celerity stealth io, put it in sprint.
Don't waste the slot for a winters gift either, slows are lol now anyway so it is mostly useless.
Don't put the kismet proc in cj, put it in maneuvers.
3 steadfast's, a karma proc and a lotg proc in frozen armor
Then get rid of snowstorm and take flash freeze and five slot it with the fortunata hypnosis set minus the proc.
and then that build will be pretty good.

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Mind/energy is beast, but a blaster would definately be a easier thing to start with.

 

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Cool working on a mind/eng build now...wish me luck

 

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Originally Posted by maxtsorm View Post
Cool working on a mind/eng build now...wish me luck
I wish you luck

 

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"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict