Movie subplots better than the actual plot.
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Posted on: 2010-09-08 23:07 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Gonna go for the low hanging fruit on this one.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
Any other movies you can think of where the subplot was actually vastly more interesting than the main plot of movie, or heck even supporting cast members who were actually more enjoyable than the main cast? |
Transformers and Transformers 2. The plot is about how Sam Witwicky is changed by and central to this great war between the Autobots and Decepticons.
How great would it have been if the robots had actually been the most important characters in the movies? How much greater if the stupid, one or two dimensional human elements had been nixed entirely and we able to explore the personalities of the robots themselves (and freed them from their own one dimensional portrayals)? And, for god's sake, why are they replacing a pointless love interest for Sam with another pointless love interest? People are not going to a Transformers movie to see whoever Shia LeBouf wants to get it on with that week, they are going to see huge robots duke it out with each other. The money they save on a actress of questionable ability could have been used to give the robots more face time.
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In Willow I was much more interested in Madmartigan's story than Willow's. Madmartigan and the brownies are really the only reason why I watch that movie.
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Bingo. When the 'sequel' books came out, I tossed them in the bin when I reached the (very early on) point where you find out what happened to Madmartigan.
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
In Willow I was much more interested in Madmartigan's story than Willow's. Madmartigan and the brownies are really the only reason why I watch that movie.
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Not that I think it is more interesting than the main plot, but I enjoy Willam's side quest to see the 3-D picture in Mallrats.
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Eh I know lots of people that saw it because Megan Fox was in it.
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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Gonna go for the low hanging fruit on this one.
Transformers and Transformers 2. The plot is about how Sam Witwicky is changed by and central to this great war between the Autobots and Decepticons. How great would it have been if the robots had actually been the most important characters in the movies? How much greater if the stupid, one or two dimensional human elements had been nixed entirely and we able to explore the personalities of the robots themselves (and freed them from their own one dimensional portrayals)? And, for god's sake, why are they replacing a pointless love interest for Sam with another pointless love interest? People are not going to a Transformers movie to see whoever Shia LeBouf wants to get it on with that week, they are going to see huge robots duke it out with each other. The money they save on a actress of questionable ability could have been used to give the robots more face time. |
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On a somewhat related note, I almost always like 'the other girl' over 'the main girl' in romantic comedy love triangle movies/series. The main love interest tends to be really bland to appeal to the widest range of guys, whereas the other girl can actually have some personality.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
The subplot where the Professor's AI hoverbot thingy falls in love with him...is actually vastly more interesting than the main plot of the movie.
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Kick-***: I would totally watch a Big Daddy and Hit-Girl movie. Not that I had any problem with it as it was, but they were at least as interesting as he was.
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James Bond: Moonraker
The over the top sci-fi plot is a silly attempt to cash in on the popularity of Star Wars, the astronauts with lasers shootout is really ridiculous and overall it's a really weak James Bond movie, not to mention a bad movie in general. Oh, and in this movie, Jaws falls in love.
The story of the big brute henchman of the megalomaniac supervillain, falling in love with a common girl and in the end turns on the villain to protect the girlfriend. Now isn't that an interesting story? It's one that I don't think has ever been told before. It manages to turn Jaws into an actual likable character, with steel teeth, and that girlfriend of his was pretty cute. In the end, they even end up risking their lives to aid Bond. I could see this plot carry a full movie on its own. But no, it was a C-plot at best in the worst James Bond movie. A waste of a genuinely interesting story.
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In the Princess Bride, all the subplots are more interesting than the main love story. The main story is very much a cliche, but it is all the surrounding characters that make the film. Especially, Will Inigo Montoya find the six-fingered man and get his revenge? And the whole backstory of the Dread Pirate Roberts. . . .
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Office Space
The effects of hypnotism and how it effects how the character deals with issues in the office is better than the embezzelment plot.
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I'm always much more interested to see where Kurt ios going than Flinn and Rachel, and I always feel ahrd done by when his little story wraps up, of fails to wrap up very quickly.|
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
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Back on topic;
I thought that the sub-plot of Good vs Evil, Jedi vs Sith and the inner struggles of one man with his demons was much more enjoyable than the love story that was Star Wars Eps 1 - 3.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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Having recently had to sit through Flubber again with my nephew, I remembered something that REALLY bugged me about that film and always has since I originally saw it.
The subplot where the Professor's AI hoverbot thingy falls in love with him...is actually vastly more interesting than the main plot of the movie.
Firstly, she is a more interesting love interest than the actual love interest...who seems to exist purely to be the love interest, there is no other reason for her existence than something for Robin Williams to faun over and to faun over Robin Williams (in the end). Ms Hoverbot actually understands the Professor and loves him for being him, even for his rather major faults (of which there are many but that is a different story).
When I first saw it I actually thought the movie was going to end with him realising that perhaps he wasn't the best man for the human love interest even though he'd been trying for so long to make himself an ideal for her, especially when he had someone who was more understanding, more caring and had been admiring him from afar for quite a while.
He would then set to work actually putting those amazingly mechanical and chemical skills to use to build the hoverbot thing a human body, heck if the dude can create AI and Flubber the dude can create a human body or atleast an incredibly realistic approximation of one.
Of course going said route does end up in a slightly creepy place, sure he built Ms Hoverbot but he didn't program her to love him...that came about all on her own.
The thing in the movie that conscerned me was when she makes mention of the design of the new version of her having 'removed some of her faults'. What is caring for someone you love a fault or do you mean 'being more interesting than an insipid, dull woman' is a fault?
Sorry folks just always been a strange bugbear of mine with that movie.
Any other movies you can think of where the subplot was actually vastly more interesting than the main plot of movie, or heck even supporting cast members who were actually more enjoyable than the main cast?