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I have to disagree on this one. In my view, the whole movie was driving toward that point, and his appearance at the crucial moment tied it all together. In one sense, it looks like a cheap shot; in another, it's the natural conclusion to a fight that started decades before. On the whole, I consider it a rather clever and interesting fight scene in addition to a solid emotional scene.
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Dennis Quaid taking out the serial killer in the "future"/present in the movie "Frequency".
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Originally Posted by Balanced
I have to disagree on this one. In my view, the whole movie was driving toward that point, and his appearance at the crucial moment tied it all together. In one sense, it looks like a cheap shot; in another, it's the natural conclusion to a fight that started decades before. On the whole, I consider it a rather clever and interesting fight scene in addition to a solid emotional scene.
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"Ben is short for Frank."
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Also, how about Bill from Kill Bill?
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I read that there was supposed to be a longer final fight sequence, but Tarantino changed it for some reason.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Also, how about Bill from Kill Bill?
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"Ben is short for Frank."
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Tabuu in Super Smash Bros Brawl. He owns the entire cast, then Sonic runs in a somehow weakens him enough in 2 seconds so the rest of the cast can fight him. Very lame.
And Blaine's Rhydon in Pokemon. It gets beaten by something that shouldn't be able to hurt it at all because it aimed for the horn.
Squirrel Girl versus...
Thanatos
Dr. Doom
etc.
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Suspension of disbelief issues aside, I'm fairly sure there's no way that Marvel and DC could have actually shown the fight in what was supposed to be a mainstream comic. Not if they really wanted it out on shelves where kids could get at it.
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Wolverine beating Lobo during the Marvel/DC crossover of the mid-90s. Fan vote chose the winner. The writers couldn't come up with a convincing way to show it so the whole fight was off-screen (took place behind a bar with just an occasional hand reaching up).
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Widmore on Lost. There was so much mystery built up around the man, with viewers constantly wondering whether he was trying to do good, or if he was bent on having power. His motivation and goals were never known. Then, in the end, he gets shot. Unexpectedly and quickly. No final words. No explanation. Just done. Thanks a lot Ben!
Yeah, he wasn't a main character, but there was considerable build up to his mystery. Would have liked a little more closure on that, but oh well.
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That would be the reason Ash's Pickachu has the nickname Godchu amongst the pokemon fandom...it's basically a canon Mary Sue.
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Originally Posted by treboreleets
Tabuu in Super Smash Bros Brawl. He owns the entire cast, then Sonic runs in a somehow weakens him enough in 2 seconds so the rest of the cast can fight him. Very lame.
And Blaine's Rhydon in Pokemon. It gets beaten by something that shouldn't be able to hurt it at all because it aimed for the horn. |
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Widmore on Lost.
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Originally Posted by RemusShepherd
If you're going to bring up Lost, surely Artz had the cheapest death ever.
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"Dude, you got a little Arzt on you..."
Yeah, Widmore's death was cheap, but Lost has always given its secondary characters cheap (and sometimes hysterical) deaths: Widmore, Arzt, Naomi, Island Tina Fey, Cesar...
"Ben is short for Frank."
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I think part of what goes with a cheapshot defeat is that you'd actually expect something more for the character, like they deserved a more respectable beating/death, in which case I think Widmore qualifies but the others don't really matter.
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
You say cheapest, I say funniest!
"Dude, you got a little Arzt on you..." Yeah, Widmore's death was cheap, but Lost has always given its secondary characters cheap (and sometimes hysterical) deaths: Widmore, Arzt, Naomi, Island Tina Fey, Cesar... |
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
I think part of what goes with a cheapshot defeat is that you'd actually expect something more for the character, like they deserved a more respectable beating/death, in which case I think Widmore qualifies but the others don't really matter.
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Plus, Arzt/Daniel Roebuck was a red herring in Season 1, in that there was a rumor that the show was introducing a new character who would have a major impact on Season 2 at the end of the first season, and here comes Arzt. Of course, it was really Ana Lucia/Michelle Rodriguez and she was only seen for like a minute in the finale
"Ben is short for Frank."
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The only way it works is if they weren't exactally fighting to decide who came out on top.
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Suspension of disbelief issues aside, I'm fairly sure there's no way that Marvel and DC could have actually shown the fight in what was supposed to be a mainstream comic. Not if they really wanted it out on shelves where kids could get at it.
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Originally Posted by RemusShepherd
If you're going to bring up Lost, surely Artz had the cheapest death ever.
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Now, take Ilana, who dies the same way. Not a ton of screen time, but more. Has history tied in with Jacob. Is suppose to be the guardian for the candidates. Probably knows a lot about Jacob and the Island. Then she just gets ripped out of the story line in the blink of an eye. Potentially a cheap shot in my opinion.
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Lucien in Fable 2.
So DC has this hyuuuge event a while back called The Death of Superman. This new Hulk-like monster called Doomsday is introduced and proceeds to trash DC. Doomsday is so powerful it manages to BEAT SUPERMAN to DEATH before it's stopped.
So how does DC follow this up the -next- time Superman and Doomsday meet? Paraphrasing here, but it was something like.
*Superman sees Doomsday*
Superman: I don't have time for this!
*Superman annihilates Doomsday in less than a page, flies off*
"Do you know what happens to a toad when hit by lightning?"
KA-ZZZORCH!!!
*Storm tosses her hair as she turns and walks away*
It was intended to be something like.
*Storm tosses her hair as she turns and walks away, then looks back with a smirk*
*nonchalantly* Same thing that happens to everything else.
Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.
good luck D.B.B.