Chain Fences useful?


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Been reading through Liliaceae's Dominator Powers Guide - I18 and some great posts here such as Elec/Earth - dominator smash? which have helped tremendously in building my Elec/Earth Dom. He's only 23 atm, and I'm starting to doubt the usefulness of Chain Fences. It's good that it doesn't prevent knockdowns/knockbacks like some other AOE Immobs, but with the aggro I tend to pull if I use it, I rarely touch the thing anymore. Should I just completely drop it, is there some tactic to using it that I've missed, or is it more useful with some later powers that I haven't picked up yet? I'd like to be able to squeeze in Super Speed somewhere in my build, but I'm making do with Ninja Run and the occasional use of my Jet Pack for now.


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The thing with Chain Fences is that it is one of your best End Draining tools. It has a baseline of 10% end drain and it's AoE with a target cap of 16 to boot. Stick an Endmod into it and power boosted you will be hitting almost 1/3 of an entire spawn's End with one attack. Even without power boost it speeds up to time to zero end significantly.

Solo it will save your life.
Teams just wait till the AoE's fly or Tanker/Brute dives in before you throw it.


 

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@Wiccania: Thanks for the helpful feedback. Even though I haven't slotted it with more than just an Accuracy atm, I've been using it tonight this way (after aggro is well established by the tank) and it's more useful this way. Thanks


 

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If I am being attacked by 16 on my own I could aoe immob them all say and then move to only have line of sight with one who will then get mullered by me, keeping that aoe there and only having LoS with one at a time will hopefully allow me to comfortably take mobs out 1 by 1 in theory. Ofc really you could use chains to help effect mobs around corners, the ones you dont have LoS too. Its a key power to me.


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It's probably a waste of a slot, but I've had fun with the Energy Manipulator: chance to stun proc slotted in mine. Very cheap and easily obtained at even the lowest of levels.


 

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best use of chain fences, it does -fly.


 

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Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5 View Post
It's probably a waste of a slot, but I've had fun with the Energy Manipulator: chance to stun proc slotted in mine. Very cheap and easily obtained at even the lowest of levels.
That's pretty nice, basically gives your AOE immob a chance to "Crit-stun".

Can you slot ranged sets in there too for the "Tempest : Chance for End Drain" proc? That'd be well worthwhile both in it and in Jolting Chains IMO and should be cheap as chips, especially ones under level 25 (since the salvage requirements are cheaper).

The chain powers have lots of scope for offensive PROCing.


 

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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA View Post
That's pretty nice, basically gives your AOE immob a chance to "Crit-stun".

Can you slot ranged sets in there too for the "Tempest : Chance for End Drain" proc? That'd be well worthwhile both in it and in Jolting Chains IMO and should be cheap as chips, especially ones under level 25 (since the salvage requirements are cheaper).

The chain powers have lots of scope for offensive PROCing.

Chain Fences takes AoE sets, not ranged, so no Tempest. I recommend slotting Chain Fences with endurance sets, since the main purpose of Chain Fences is to make sapping much, much easier.


 

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Originally Posted by Candlestick View Post
Chain Fences takes AoE sets, not ranged, so no Tempest. I recommend slotting Chain Fences with endurance sets, since the main purpose of Chain Fences is to make sapping much, much easier.
Aaaw

Yep, in that case I'd max out End Mod (and stick a proc or two in as well since I'm a sucker for them).


 

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Aaaw

Yep, in that case I'd max out End Mod (and stick a proc or two in as well since I'm a sucker for them).
Just don't slot it with Performance chance for end. Gives end to the mob instead.


 

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Just don't lead with it, especially on teams. Otherwise it is useful in partnership with all your other powers.


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Just don't slot it with Performance chance for end. Gives end to the mob instead.
Wow... utter failure of a proc. Thanks for the heads up.


 

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I'm playing Elec/Elec so this might be different... but I do love Chain Fences. I have it two procced and it's a poor AOE/control power. With the two procs, it speeds up soloing large groups noticeably and if you layer confusion and knockdown, you can spam this and get some decent damage since the recharge is quite fast.


 

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I had fences early in my elec/elec build and got rid of it. I didn't find that it did anything worth the amount of endurance it consumed.

It generates but does not really control aggro. I don't need it for end drain as all my other powers do that.

Maybe if I had a couple of procs in it I would feel differently. But out of the box, it was my least favorite elec power.


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