@Shade...
Yes. Yes they are putting a price tag on that stuff that those people who work at Paragon actually DO all day.
Something wrong with that? Seriously?
If you don't want the emotes included in this pack, don't buy it. Pretty simple. If you just don't want to PAY for it? Don't buy it. Pretty simple. But seriously, don't go saying that the people who work at paragon don't "focus on making people pay for everything" - it's a BUSINESS. That's what businesses DO. Just because we've had such a terrific bunch of FREE STUFF (all 6 years worth of Issues to name JUST A FEW) doesn't mean that their company is interested in giving everything away.
Non-game breaking items like these are PERFECT for pay-as-you-like items. Not so perfect are things like "entire zones of content" or "contact trees you can only get by buying" (and I'm not talking about the EXPANSION set here, as it was long overdue to have a product ON THE SHELVES somewhere). Lots of other games use that very thing, "oh the game's free per month but if you WANT to play, you're going to have to buy this and that and the other thing.
Not so, here. If you want to play, you pay your fees. If you want extra doodads, costumes and such that simply don't impact the way the game is played... then these packs offer a nice extra touch.
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Thanks, that was so not helpful.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Fortunately for you, you don't need to buy them.
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I don't give a crap about critcism, I even agree with the general opinion that 6 for this is to much. The way over the top reactions from people, who somehow manage to get personally insulted by this, with all sorts of nonsensical justifications just grates on my nerves.
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Originally Posted by Peacemoon
Oh please, we can't make criticisms now without resorting to this? Sounds like you should be nursing your own puppy. Maybe you could buy a booster pack for it while you're there.
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What are you talking about? There are no other threads about this.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
insight this penetrating really demands it's own thread, doesn't it.
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This pack is perfect for the addition of a vuvuzela. Just sayin'. 
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How about the official announcement threads?
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Originally Posted by Inazuma
What are you talking about? There are no other threads about this.
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@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
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I checked the dev post thread before I started this. There was nothing.
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Originally Posted by TrueMetal
How about the official announcement threads?
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I was going to post my response to this thread in its own thread.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
insight this penetrating really demands it's own thread, doesn't it.
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Originally Posted by Inazuma
What are you talking about? There are no other threads about this.
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Originally Posted by Zekiran_Immortal
@Shade...
Yes. Yes they are putting a price tag on that stuff that those people who work at Paragon actually DO all day. Something wrong with that? Seriously? If you don't want the emotes included in this pack, don't buy it. Pretty simple. If you just don't want to PAY for it? Don't buy it. Pretty simple. But seriously, don't go saying that the people who work at paragon don't "focus on making people pay for everything" - it's a BUSINESS. That's what businesses DO. Just because we've had such a terrific bunch of FREE STUFF (all 6 years worth of Issues to name JUST A FEW) doesn't mean that their company is interested in giving everything away. Non-game breaking items like these are PERFECT for pay-as-you-like items. Not so perfect are things like "entire zones of content" or "contact trees you can only get by buying" (and I'm not talking about the EXPANSION set here, as it was long overdue to have a product ON THE SHELVES somewhere). Lots of other games use that very thing, "oh the game's free per month but if you WANT to play, you're going to have to buy this and that and the other thing. Not so, here. If you want to play, you pay your fees. If you want extra doodads, costumes and such that simply don't impact the way the game is played... then these packs offer a nice extra touch. |
Maybe someone should let the other competing MMOs in the business world that it is now acceptable to charge a monthly fee AND charge for any new content no matter how small....
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I thought that the $15 a month I've been giving them was enough to ensure the continued development of the game. Actually, you could even say that every subscriber's $15 a month went to pay the development costs of this little emote pack.|
Originally Posted by Zekiran_Immortal
@Shade...
Yes. Yes they are putting a price tag on that stuff that those people who work at Paragon actually DO all day. Something wrong with that? Seriously? If you don't want the emotes included in this pack, don't buy it. Pretty simple. If you just don't want to PAY for it? Don't buy it. Pretty simple. But seriously, don't go saying that the people who work at paragon don't "focus on making people pay for everything" - it's a BUSINESS. That's what businesses DO. Just because we've had such a terrific bunch of FREE STUFF (all 6 years worth of Issues to name JUST A FEW) doesn't mean that their company is interested in giving everything away. Non-game breaking items like these are PERFECT for pay-as-you-like items. Not so perfect are things like "entire zones of content" or "contact trees you can only get by buying" (and I'm not talking about the EXPANSION set here, as it was long overdue to have a product ON THE SHELVES somewhere). Lots of other games use that very thing, "oh the game's free per month but if you WANT to play, you're going to have to buy this and that and the other thing. Not so, here. If you want to play, you pay your fees. If you want extra doodads, costumes and such that simply don't impact the way the game is played... then these packs offer a nice extra touch. |
Is the $15 subscription fee no longer enough to pay for the issues that they've been releasing for the past few years? There's been no indication that Paragon Studios, NCSoft, or City of Heroes is in trouble financially. A set subscription rate of $15 seems to have been enough until now.
One thing that turns me off a game faster than anything is when the company goes microtransaction-crazy. So far, it has felt to me that NCSoft and Paragon Studios has been dealing pretty fairly with us. I liked the rate and costs of the twice a year costume pack. But now they're starting to cross that line to where I think they're getting greedy and I refuse to support companies like that.
One reason I'll never touch Star Trek Online is because I think Cryptic/Atari went insane with their damned Cryptic Store. They charge the standard $15 subscription fee per month, and then constantly add stuff to the C-Store for people to buy. If you don't believe me, take a look at their website, it's insane.
I would really loathe to have Paragon Studios follow Cryptic into greed-town on this. This is my favourite game, and I would hate to have to cancel my subscription over this.
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Originally Posted by Peacemoon
Once upon a time new emotes were part of an issue. These could have gone live with i18 and/or GR, instead they hold them back and make us pay for them. Open your eyes.
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I don't have any problem whatsoever with the company attempting to make more money by selling us optional extras. They are a business after all. If they were NOT trying to figure out new ways to make money I think I might actually be worried about that.
I just think they missed their price point on this latest pack. Making some extra money is one thing but I think they got a tad too greedy with this one. If they had pegged this party pack at $3.99 instead of $7.99 they would've had a winner on their hands. *shrugs*
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I'm willing to bet this pack will be the most successful, most sold, most profitable pack they'll ever release.
HAHA....this is lame.......
They have gotten every pack, upgrade, etc out of me. But with this I have to draw the line...er dance line.
But for those excited, I am happy for you. Just not my cup of tea.
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Originally Posted by Silverado
I'm willing to bet this pack will be the most successful, most sold, most profitable pack they'll ever release.
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I just contend that they might have sold 3x or 4x as many of these packs if they had pegged it a $3.99 instead. *shrugs*
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This is a test... this is only a test...
Seriously.
This is the first time they have offered an emotes only booster, so they are testing the waters to see if such a beast will sell. If no one at all buys this they will not come out with further emote-only's. If some people buy but not many... they will continue the test by coming out with the next booster at a reduced price. If it sells like hot cakes and emote-dancing people line the roads everywhere you look, then they will continue crunching out these sorts of packs with grins on their faces and money in their fists.
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HOW DARE NCSOFT TRY TO MAKE AS MUCH PROFIT AS POSSIBLE!!! It's not like that is the entire point of the company existing or something....|
Originally Posted by Evilanna
But now they're starting to cross that line to where I think they're getting greedy and I refuse to support companies like that.
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Seriously, if people are willing to buy this stuff(I'm not willing to buy a pack of lolemotes), then give me a good reason why they shouldn't keep selling these types of things?
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa there.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Oh I have no doubt that at $7.99 it will be the most PROFITABLE because they had to do the least amount of effort for it.
I just contend that they might have sold 3x or 4x as many of these packs if they had pegged it a $3.99 instead. *shrugs* |
Now I think one of the things we need to consider is that the amount of time and work put into these emotes might now seem worth eight bucks to us, but they might seem worth eight bucks to the animation department, or the marketing department seems to think so anyway.
It's a paper thin and stupid reason, but there's your reason.
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TheOcho is not a dev. He is a Mod. Mods tend to initiate announcements and announcement discussion threads. It was about 2 hours before yours.
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Originally Posted by Inazuma
I checked the dev post thread before I started this. There was nothing.
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total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
There is an official discussion thread about this here: Discussion: New In-Game Pack Get Ready to PARTY!
I don't like it one bit.