Good for stalkers bad for everyone else. (Unless youre talking about fiteklub)
Tested out a friends KM/Regen/Sharks crapper last night on my dom that usually rolls Regens.
Concentrated Strike did 750+ dmg with heca proc firing to my dom on many occasions without any debuffage and I was running with Charged Armor and Surge of Power godmode for near half the match.
This game is luls, just sayn'.....
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Originally Posted by Championess
Tested out a friends KM/Regen/Sharks crapper last night on my dom that usually rolls Regens.
Concentrated Strike did 750+ dmg with heca proc firing to my dom on many occasions without any debuffage and I was running with Charged Armor and Surge of Power godmode for near half the match. This game is luls, just sayn'..... |
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
Ok so maybe I was overdramatizing a little bit, the damage was more around 700+. When I went back through my combat logs though and saw the instance where I was hit for a total of 750+ I decided to uninstall so I cannot provide further proof of this (Overdramatization again i didn't uninstall, not until November).
The number given may be a bit high, but Concentrated Strike does retarded amounts of damage in PvP.
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well yea but 700 damage through an armor and SoP with no help doesn't seem plausible. from that description it'd be nice to see a combat log or something.
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Originally Posted by macskull
The number given may be a bit high, but Concentrated Strike does retarded amounts of damage in PvP.
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Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
True, CS might make it good, but lack of BU for me at least kills it.
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why would you play it on anything but a stalker
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Originally Posted by DaveMebs
True, CS might make it good, but lack of BU for me at least kills it.
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I wouldn't.
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Originally Posted by Neeto
why would you play it on anything but a stalker
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Ive seen scrappers hit high with KM. Im sure it can be playwd on scrappers instead f only stalkers
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KM is a little too good on scrappers in pvp. I have a KM/Fire and hit a scrapper for 1150 damage. The combat log is in this link for all you non believers http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2883/pvpn.jpg
Guessing that was a Regen, so they'd have no resistance to speak of. Also doesn't show how much damage bonus you were running - while the combat logs don't lie, there's a lot of variables there and pretending like you'll always do 1000+ damage with CS is silly.
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damage bonus is in the top on the screen in combat attributes, 27.5%. Also i do realise that its not always going to do tht sort of damage, Average is around 700. I think the scrapper was a SR
KM on scrappers is impressive. Performs much better than I expected.
Still going stalk because the AS is so sexy.
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Its great, for now, wait till it gets hit with the ol' nerf chainsaw.
Take a look at the pvp numbers for scrapper KM. They are off on most of the powers. Expect changes.
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because the devs change pvp so often?
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Originally Posted by Nicetry
Take a look at the pvp numbers for scrapper KM. They are off on most of the powers. Expect changes.
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Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
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They seem to stay relatively on top of correcting powers that are doing more/incorrect damage based on their pvp damage formula. That's about the only thing they change.|
Originally Posted by PC_guy
because the devs change pvp so often?
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Specifically CS (for scrappers) is doing at least 100-200 extra base damage. Focused burst is doing ~50 too much base damage. The aoe's aren't using the gutted aoe formula and iirc body blow and smashing blow are reversed in terms of pvp damage.
Sure some other sets still have lingering inaccuracies in their pvp numbers, but KM (for scrappers) currently has more incorrect powers than correct ones.
-granted I'm using mids to check the pvp damages. They may be off from the ingame numbers for all I know as I haven't bothered to check.
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nope mids and in game are relatively close. i just don't think the devs will change it. for the obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted by Nicetry
They seem to stay relatively on top of correcting powers that are doing more/incorrect damage based on their pvp damage formula. That's about the only thing they change.
Specifically CS (for scrappers) is doing at least 100-200 extra base damage. Focused burst is doing ~50 too much base damage. The aoe's aren't using the gutted aoe formula and iirc body blow and smashing blow are reversed in terms of pvp damage. Sure some other sets still have lingering inaccuracies in their pvp numbers, but KM (for scrappers) currently has more incorrect powers than correct ones. -granted I'm using mids to check the pvp damages. They may be off from the ingame numbers for all I know as I haven't bothered to check. |
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
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Maybe, maybe not. They fixed dual pistols pretty quickly though and its damage was of minor incorrectness compared to KM.|
Originally Posted by PC_guy
nope mids and in game are relatively close. i just don't think the devs will change it. for the obvious reasons.
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I'm sure if enough people started complaining that scrapper CS does more damage than assassin strike by a fair margin (ignoring resistances) that would probably expedite any changes that might eventually occur.
it's just melee after all and the set doesn't have a BU. Takes hits to beef up the dmg. a mediocre strategy should easily trump a mediocre Km scrap
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Is KM really good on Stalkers?
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Originally Posted by Sinistar6000
KM on scrappers is impressive. Performs much better than I expected.
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It is a lot of fun and seems pretty impressive, though my KM/WP stalker isn't finished yet.
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Originally Posted by DarkMaster
Is KM really good on Stalkers?
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And then when the person playing the Scrapper isn't a bad...
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Originally Posted by AresSupreme
it's just melee after all and the set doesn't have a BU. Takes hits to beef up the dmg. a mediocre strategy should easily trump a mediocre Km scrap
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What do you guys think is it worth trying out in pvp?